Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ella’s Fine Food and Drink

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The result was speedy delete. CSD G5 Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:42, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ella’s Fine Food and Drink

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Non-notable restaurant with a purely local draw. None of the sources support the notability of the restaurant at all. valereee (talk) 14:02, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink and Rhode Island. valereee (talk) 14:02, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like there's a case for moving redirecting to Jeanie Roland and refocusing. In addition to coverage of her restaurant, she "Beat Bobby Flay", the coverage of her relationship with Taylor Swift looks to focus more on her than the restaurant, and she was on one of the Iron Chef shows. The coverage is from multiple places in New England as well as Florida. Moving away from the restaurant also makes it easier to trim some of the more promotional content from the article. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:18, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. Updated. Missed that her article already exists. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:01, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rhododendrites, FWIW, some 150 people have "Beat Bobby Flay." And that's just one cooking reality show. There are hundreds of food reality shows, some with dozens of seasons and thousands of winners. Winning an episode of a cooking reality show cannot be taken as evidence of notability. It would be absolutely nuts. Just in the US, the Chopped franchise has twelve different series over 52 seasons with a winner a week in each of those series. And there are multiple other versions in other countries. valereee (talk) 22:27, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not claiming "beating Bobby Flay" is auto-notability. It is a source of coverage, though, and contributes to her notability. We could also say "there are also hundreds of newspapers which write about thousands of people, and one person being written about in one of them doesn't make them notable". That would be true, too, but it we bring together a few of those it's a different story. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 22:47, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Jeanie Roland has been nominated for deletion as well. ––FormalDude talk 14:54, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That was me, too. See this COIN thread. Clear case of UPE with attempts to actively hide the fact. valereee (talk) 15:07, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And, it turns out, creator is a sock of an LTA. valereee (talk) 21:17, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
~~I don't see any notability independent of Jeanie Roland. This should be either deleted or redirected to Jeanie Roland.~~ Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:09, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per G5. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:11, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Native advertising, brochure article. scope_creep^Talk 17:57, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete WP:G5. MarioGom (talk) 18:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete G5 - sock creation — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 22:28, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete: G5. ––FormalDude talk 22:47, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as G5, open and shut case. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:01, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per WP:G5. The writer of the article appears to have been evading a block to conduct undisclosed paid editing. The only contributions to the prose of the article by other editors were copyedits or edits that have been self-reverted, so it’s true that the only substantial edits to this article have been made by a then-banned user. It’s also native advertising, as scope creep points out above, but advertising-specific concerns are moot since it's a clear G5 at the moment. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 17:24, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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