Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Egyptian Tank Man
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The result was keep. The consensus is keep. I am not completely sure myself, but that's irrelevant. DGG ( talk ) 22:20, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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This is an incident that occurred during the Egyptian Revolution that I don't believe qualifies as a notable event. Although it is compared to the Tiananmen Square Tank Man, there are vast differences between the two in terms of coverage and significance. This event doesn't appear to have been the subject of anything more than routine news coverage. --Bongwarrior (talk) 06:10, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I see that you have one point concerning this article, which focuses on the "notability" of the incident. Actually, the incident is very famous in Egypt, specially that it occured on the first day of the revolution. Many of Egyptians and the media praised the act, and all of them considered this act to be the trigger that made more Egyptians -who were afraid to join the revolution- go down to the streets and protest against Mubarak's regime.
The photo of this incident is widely popular over the internet and on the streets, as a symbol of peaceful resistance, bravery and strong will.
Also, the man that stood infront of the vehicle is still alive and refuses to go puplic, in spite of the media pressure on him and the people's curiosity to know him, and he become famous as "Shaab Al-Modarra'a" (The guy of the tank), or Tank Man, as I wrote.
The guy said in his only media appearance in Al-Ahram (link below - article in Arabic): "I did this for my country not for fame" and "I knew about the Tiananmen Tank Man after I return home and saw the western media comparing me to him. If I knew about him before I went to the streets, I would resisted the police vehicle more strongly as he did to the army tank".
That's why I included the Tank Man comparison in the article. I wish that I answered your point properly.
Ahram Link: http://www.ahram.org.eg/Al%20Mashhad%20Al%20Syiassy/News/83696.aspx
Ahmad E Shahin (talk) 07:47, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Clear Keep, was even sourced in France 24 GrandPhilliesFan (talk) 10:22, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete BLP1E. Perhaps a single line somewhere in the other articles on these protests. Not really comparable with an event that made the cover of Time magazine. --Crusio (talk) 10:41, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- What if it made the cover of a magazine that sells just as many copies, over in a different nation? Dream Focus 14:39, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - there is plenty of coverage from Egypt, and some elsewhere. At AfD we are not obliged to make comparisons with any other articles or events, just to examine each case on its own merits. This one is notable. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:50, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep – References in the article, and available references, surpasses WP:GNG. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:12, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I saw the video, and its one guy running out there while the police keep spraying water about, and then others soon run over to join him. I don't see as how standing in front of a single water shooting vehicle, is equal to that of a man standing in front of a column of tanks in China. But that is how the media is covering it. [1] Large numbers of protesters all around, and someone does this followed by others, all of which who keep moving back as the vehicle moves forward. If the Egyptian media is uses this as a symbol of their revolution though, so be it, it notable for that reason alone. Dream Focus 14:39, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Per WP:BLP1E. No inherent notability for getting your picture in the newspaper for standing in front of an armored vehicle and stopping it for a bit. Wikipedia is not a summary of everything that has been in the news. In the context of the Egyptian revolution, this was pretty minor. It could be mentioned, in one sentence, in the general article about the uprising. Edison (talk) 15:57, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Satisfactory coverage in reliable publications. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:46, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep per Reliable sources. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 03:06, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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