Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edward Aharon Vitz

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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 07:27, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Aharon Vitz

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I have a lot of trouble with this article. Despite the high praise claiming he is "among the greatest and most influential sculptors", "highly sought after," "universal renown," etc etc., I could find literally NOTHING about him at Google Books or Google Scholar. The article claims he won the Prix de Rome, but I could find no evidence of that either. Nothing is verified, except that there is a link to a webpage describing a short, not-yet-released biographical film about him. Aside from that webpage, IMDb listing, and Facebook page, all of which are about the film, there is nothing at all to support or verify this article. I am tempted to say "hoax". Or at least to suspect that even if the proposed short film is real, the subject is fictional. MelanieN (talk) 00:22, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

More evidence that this is a hoax: The article falsely claimed that there was related material at WikiQuotes and Wikimedia commons. It even had tags claiming it was semiprotected. This from a supposedly brand-new editor. --MelanieN (talk) 09:35, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Update: the author has now changed the article to state that Edward Aharon Vitz is a fictional character. So it's no longer a hoax. The remaining problem, and the reason the article should still be deleted, is lack of notability. --MelanieN (talk) 23:33, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 00:30, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 00:31, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Hoax. Or, more accurately, stealth marketing. The only thing real in this article is the one-sentence content of the "In Popular Culture" section. The Ninth is real. It is a short film submitted to this year's Louisiana Film Prize. It made the Top 20 list, which means it will be screened at the actual film festival (in October), but it has not (at least not yet) won any awards or received any significant coverage. It—the film—is not currently notable. The rest of the article is essentially the fictional plot summary of the short film, presented as though it were legitimate history. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 13:23, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that makes sense! So we can't blame this one on bored high school students, then. --MelanieN (talk) 14:22, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Squeamish Ossifrage: Well, you nailed it! The author has now edited the article so it states that Edward Aharon Vitz is a fictional character. Great analysis on your part, that proved to be spot-on - congratulations! --MelanieN (talk) 23:33, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, that only changes the deletion rationale, not my opinion regarding the article. The fictional character from The Ninth most assuredly has no independent notability. Typically, I recommend redirection of character articles to the article for their work, but The Ninth does not have an article; it lacks significant independent coverage. There's really no place for this to go, other than deletion. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:17, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete My sweeps come up dry (NY, US, international, entertainment). Think The Ninth is a real movie, but I think yes it is stealth marketing, and the fictional character in it, not notable, no sources on it.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:04, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. NN - fluff marketing COI piece. -- Alexf^(talk) 11:53, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fictional character from a non-notable film. No encyclopaedic notability. AllyD (talk) 08:46, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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