Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dulcis foetidus

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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:24, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dulcis foetidus

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Non-notable single event. Initially identified on Wikipedia as a hoax until a single BBC article revealed the coverage around Dulcis foetidus to be part of a single, non-notable crowd psychology experiment. This event does not fulfill Wikipedia:Notability. Rkitko ^(talk) 15:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to crowd psychology or delete. No lasting notability; may deserve mention as a notable example in the crowd psychology article, but I'm not even sure of that. Ucucha 15:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, as this was an elaborate public experiment and despite how recent it is there already exists one reliable 3rd party source about it. 69.3.72.249 (talk) 15:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It may have begun as a hoax article but now it is an article about a hoax. 69.3.72.249 (talk) 16:57, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I'm seeing just a single news hit on this, so it looks like it wasn't a very notable hoax. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:00, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete - redirection to an article that doesn't mention it isn't helpful. If kept, there must be a better title, but it seems that it would fit better into some other page anyway. Lavateraguy (talk) 17:11, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails Wikipedia:Notability (events), specifically lasting coverage. mgiganteus1 (talk) 17:18, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Notability (events) says "It may take weeks or months to determine whether or not an event has a lasting effect. This does not, however, mean recent events with unproven lasting effect are automatically non-notable." This is a recent event. 69.3.72.249 (talk) 06:13, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into crowd psychology. Otherwise Keep —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronk01 (talk • contribs)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the plant wasnt even real! also i am concern that the scientific journal references r fake.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 19:32, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- See WT:BIOL#Dulcis foetidus on that. Two refs merely verify that a few other (real) plants are smelly; one verifies the meaning of the alleged native name of the plant (although it was slightly suspicious that a Brazilian plant would be named in a Canadian language); the fourth I could not access. Ucucha 19:39, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Clearly fails WP:GNG ("significant coverage") as a hoax. First Light (talk) 21:23, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:GNG says "significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail. Two sources do that. 69.3.72.249 (talk) 06:10, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The 'second' source is the same BBC author as the first, this time in his blog. WP:GNG: "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability." "Multiple sources are generally expected" surely means more than two, anyway. First Light (talk) 12:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This was started as a hoax article [1] on the 8th. The reported hour long lecture/experiment followed on the 15th. It was subsequently amended to be an article on the lecture. A single article in BBC Local news does not make the subject notable.--Melburnian (talk) 23:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Let's not assume the person who created the Wikipedia article knew it was a hoax. But if you do assume that, then it would be reasonable to also assume the real psychology experiment is here on Wikipedia. 69.3.72.249 (talk) 01:52, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whether the Wikipedia article was part of the hoax or not isn't important. The hoax itself still has not received significant coverage in multiple mainstream sources. First Light (talk) 15:31, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per most of the above. Kay SL - 16:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable hoax. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 17:04, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There have been thousands of psychological experiments and this one is not any more notable than most of them. --Beirne (talk) 21:26, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Out, damned spot. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 07:37, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have worked on the article. Lavateraguy would like a better page name. Please comment on Talk:Dulcis foetidus. 69.3.72.249 (talk) 19:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I thought this 'smelled funny' from the very beginning (11 Sept when it was made live); I noted my concerns in the Feedback request, and posted on WikiProj Biology. Now, OK, we know it was a hoax; but it isn't a notable hoax. Articles require significant coverage, and the one Beeb article ain't that. Chzz ► 01:45, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. One short article from the BBC isn't enough to claim "significant coverage". Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There are also the WP:SELFREF concerns, The false information in Wikipedia included such information as... etc. This really needs to go, ASAP. Chzz ► 13:47, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no significant coverage - note that the BBC ref is local coverage, not the main BBC website. Can't see any potential for further improvements. Smartse (talk) 00:18, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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