Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dheera (film)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to Soundarya Rajinikanth where sourced information about the film should be included. This will presumably be notable upon release or more sources covering the production can be found. But the consensus below is that in the absence of more sources there is not enough to justify an independent article at the present time. Eluchil404 (talk) 07:18, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dheera (film)

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Sadly, this film is in development hell, meaning production of the film has stopped or is completely unknown. With regards to that, the film has severely lost notability, with no reliable sources pointing to indications of progress in the film's production, no clear information on cast members, or projected release time. With news about Rana and Kochadaiyaan, Dheera does not seem likely to continue work with filming in the near future. I suggest this article be deleted, with its contents userfied until the film is confirmed to be in production again (or release date scheduled). EelamStyleZ (talk) 01:20, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was invited to visit. Did so. Looked at the article and researched under its different names. I agree that userfication is sensible. Proposed film has had off and on coverage since 2007, and has gone throgh at least three name changes. As it is still not confirmed as entring priniple filming, it fals WP:NFF. But as the topic has had discussion in sources, we might also consider a redirect of this latest title and the earlier ones to its director at Soundarya Rajinikanth where it might then be spoken of and sourced in context to his career... as a planned film that has had setbacks. The moment it might be confirmed as having begun shooting, the redirect can be reverted and the article then expanded and sourced to reflect this. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 02:58, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I also support a redirect to Soundarya Rajinikanth. EelamStyleZ (talk) 13:03, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - (disc: was invited here by nom). has been in "development" for long. At present, there is no indication that this is going to be released. --Sodabottle (talk) 04:28, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep it~~ Redirect - I got a source from Oneindia.in, which states "Soundarya restarts Rajinikanth's Dheera." A source from CNN-IBN and another source from The Times of India, both which states that the movie is slated for an August 2012 release. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 05:51, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate the links. But a lot can happen in over the next 9 months, including both the beginning of principle filming or the announcement of yet another set-back. These are the sorts of vagaries that WP:NFF addresses. We do have options that will protect the article's history, allow placement of contxtual information in the director's article, and yet still allow the aticle to return when production is much more imminent. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 10:26, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. "But a lot can happen in over the next 9 months", it sounds speculative. Tough the article can be userified, but please accept what sources say. If the film is back on platform, there is no option to delete or moving it. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 11:25, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The CNN-IBN article says Kochadaiyaan will release in August 2012, not Dheera. In fact, the only thing it says about Dheera is that "it is yet to see the light of day", which indicates the fate of the film is pretty much unknown. EelamStyleZ (talk) 13:00, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect - Oh! Thanks for pointing me out. I guess redirecting to Soundarya Rajinikanth will be a better option then as of now. However I m concerned with the Oneindia.in source which states, "Soundarya restarts Rajinikanth's Dheera", and further states that Soundarya Rajinikanth has confirmed the news in Twitter. Thanks and regards. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 13:46, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, although finding a reliable source that explicitly states the film is ready to roll would give the article an edge to be kept. EelamStyleZ (talk) 02:03, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep it, even if the film is not getting released, it can be moved to unreleased movies category. Rajeshbieee (talk) 08:43, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I was asked to comment here. Looking at the sources, they only say stuff like the film is "about to start" or "will start soon" without any dates. If we have any sources which say that a part of the film has been shot, or so then we can keep it. X-One ^SOS 10:18, 1 December 2011 (UTC) Redirect: Sorry for the late change. I feel a redirect would be suitable as the film has been in development hell, not a mere media speculation. X.One ^SOS 11:58, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Would you think a redirect suitable? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 10:26, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know much about redirects, but if it is deleted an option would be redirecting to Rajini or KSR's page. X-One ^SOS 10:38, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Soundarya Rajinikanth. I agree that the film is yet to commence and totally lacks notability at this point of time, but there is no news like the film being dropped as of now. Unless an official announcement is made that the film is dropped, I don't think it's necessary to delete the article. —Commander _{(Ping me)} 11:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep it It got reliable sources. --Sistemx (talk) 12:41, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please clarify. Provide those reliable sources that suggest this film really is being filmed at the moment. EelamStyleZ (talk) 16:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, even if the there are no indications for the film to be dropped, there's virtually no real word about it. Sources provided by Karthikndr do not seem to mention the fact that the film is progressing with confidence (in fact, the CNN-IBN source does not mention anything about Dheera starting, it only says that the film is "yet to see the light of day" which explains nothing). Consider long delayed films like Solli Adippen and Marudhanayagam which went completely lost in the media (of course, Dheera isn't as bad as those films at the moment). EelamStyleZ (talk) 12:54, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I m also concerned about article history. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 13:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Soundarya Rajinikanth. Sultan, Hara, Rana, Dheera and now Kochadaiyan - honestly I'm not understanding. This film has been in production since 2007, even Enthiran, which started later, has released by now. There is no news that the team is still working on the project. Let Soundarya at least commence a film first! Johannes003 (talk) 21:56, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Soundarya Rajinikanth. Unless this is in the news for some reason, we really should not keep it. Lynch 7 07:20, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Add relevant information from this article to soundary Raninikanth and Rajinikanth articles and then delete. Redirect is not a good solution, since redirect will simply hide the page from readers.
Anish Viswa 01:15, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as offered further above. The redirect will take the article out of mainspace and yet protect the hidden-from-readers history for whatever time this finaly breaks out of production hell... and if or when it does, the redirect can be reverted and the article expanded and sourced accordingly. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:45, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.