Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Descendants of Mauros from Miletus

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 04:51, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Descendants of Mauros from Miletus

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Apparent WP:OR and WP:SYNTH violations: there is no source indicating that the Mauros family from Miletus had anything to do with the Mauroi clan in S. Italy. The tree of descent is also obviously fabricated, and many citations don't check out or are unverifiable. There are several indicators of improper synthesis in the chronological mismatch of the people listed: Pardos, the catepan of Italy in 1042, is presented as the son of a Maurus who was a wealthy merchant in the 1060s. The same Maurus is given as the nephew of Nicephorus, who was Patriarch of Antioch in 1084-1090. That same Nicephorus is given as the son of Basil Mauros, who was active at the same time (1080s-1090s) (cf. Nikephoros and Basil 1 & Basil 2 at the Prosopography of the Byzantine World), nor is any definite familial relationship between them known ([1]). Constantine ✍ 16:30, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Start over again maybe. In a sandbox this time. This is just way too confused and confusing. And worse, dubious. Seems kind of like somebodies genealogy. Or alleged genealogy maybe. Student7 (talk) 13:24, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment That's exactly what it is, it was part of thi set of extraordinary claims initially. Someone writing up a fantasy pedigree for himself, apparently. Constantine ✍ 16:05, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment I don't take part in this discussion, because I had written this article, but I had written only from the cited literature, and I do not know whether is it true what is written in the cited literature or is not. Sorry, my English is not the best, isn't it. User:Budija, 26. September 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 17:51, 26 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]
  - Budija, you have mixed around these people and invented connections between them in a manner that none of the cited sources support. This is original research and synthesis, and is not allowed in Wikipedia. Constantine ✍ 19:33, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - It is very serious, what are you writing, dear Cplakidas. You are blaming me to intentionally deceive the readers. This is defamation. I guess, that you may be have not studied the whole cited literature. Please, write me your full name and your postal address, you will get a letter from my lawyer. User:Budija, 26. September 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 20:01, 26 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]
    - Note Budija has been blocked until he retracts his threat. We have zero tolerance for legal threats. Dougweller (talk) 13:32, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
delete reading through a couple of the sources it does appear there is WP:SYTH going on. The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 02:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Incubate - by sandbox preferably - to remove synthesis and fix it up. Bearian (talk) 18:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.