Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David O. Dykes

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The result was keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:20, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

David O. Dykes

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Non-notable individual lacking references that support WP:N. Subject notability is based on opening of State Legislature and U.S. House. References are name included in list and award is inconsequential. Fails WP:BIO. reddogsix (talk) 16:25, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Dykes is a major figure in Baptist and Evangelical circles, he's given invocations for Congress and received the Southern Baptist conventions' highest honor for cryinout loud. Reddogsix removed references without fully checking them. He deleted a reference to Teen Mania from the Acquire the Fire website without realizing that Acquire the Fire is sponsored by Teen Mania. He put a "citation" notice on a ref that linked to Congressman Louis Gohmert's house page. The same ref that exists on his article. He also tagged a picture for deletion where the linked source clearly releases the all legal rights to the material in the first paragraph. I may be new, but this articles references were not fully examined by Reddogsix and I ask that all the source I added be considered for debate. -RedRaiderApache (talk) 16:36, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The references were removed because they did not support the article statements. What exists on another page has no bearing here - feel free to fix it in the other article. The copyright of a picture cannot be removed in such a manner as described above. FYI - Adding the LBGH related comments in the article may help save this article by adding additional references. reddogsix (talk) 16:41, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They do support the statement. The Acquire the Fire conference which is sponsored by Teen Mania , so Dykes supports Teen Mania. Ref supports statement. The needs citation you removed is a direct copy of the same citation noting that Louie Gohmert is a deacon and Sunday School teacher at Green Acres. Ref supports statement. I was just getting to the LGBT stuff. -RedRaiderApache (talk) 17:02, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The original statement was, "He is close to Louie Gohmert who serves as a deacon in the church and teaches Sunday School." There is nothing in the reference that supports, "He is close to Louie Gohmert..." reddogsix (talk) 17:08, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Its obvious to me, but if not you could have deleted the he is close to Gohmert. The ref clearly supports that he was a deacon and Sunday School teacher, but you removed it. -RedRaiderApache (talk) 17:33, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - The article appears to make the case for notability. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:03, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep GNG is met, nominator's statements about failing BIO, even if true, do not matter, since either the GNG or a relevant SNG may be used to meet N. Jclemens (talk) 18:48, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. WP:GNG is clearly met, with plenty of news coverage (including coverage of his award, which on its own meets WP:ANYBIO). Cleanup may be needed, but that's not a matter for AfD. I find this nomination incomprehensible. -- 202.124.88.20 (talk) 01:24, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment -- I see nothing in the statemetns in the lead to indicate his notability. Opening a legislature in prayer is hardly notable, nor is campaigning about legislation in Uganda, not is his present pastorate, as it is of a church on which we have no article. I am in UK and do not know this books. I have to presume that these are sufficient to confer notability. Peterkingiron (talk) 05:56, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One claim to notability would be the Monroe E. Dodd award. -- 203.171.197.13 (talk) 09:16, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just to be clear, it is denominational service award given by Union, a Christian liberal arts university in Jackson, Tennessee. reddogsix (talk) 14:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, sorry, just to be clear, the Union award is different, although it has a similar name ("The Union award should not be confused with the M.E. Dodd Cooperative Program Award, which is handed out during each annual meeting by the SBC Executive Committee. That award honors a person, congregation or organization that has demonstrated continuous, long-term excellence in supporting the principles, practice and spirit of the Cooperative Program"). From the source in the article, it's the M.E. Dodd Cooperative Program Award which Dykes received, not the one from Union. -- 202.124.88.31 (talk) 13:19, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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