Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dave Hewson (composer)
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The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 20:10, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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David Hewson will be remembered by some people or Spongebob fans as a composer for the APM Music library, and he composed themes for many channels. However, considering the fact that Notability is not inherited, I have no benefit that this article satisfies the amount of notability Wikipedia expects.
The first issue is that are two tags concerning that it only includes info from primary sources and that it doesn't meet WP:GNG. Second, the only non-primary sources I could find here was this non-secondary or independent APM page and about only a minor quote from him in this BBC News. No books about or going in-depth in some way about the composer came up when I was looking on Google Books. Again, I know he's composed music for a lot of TV shows, but that doesn't mean he's notable enough for a wikipedia article. As I've said before, "Notability is not inherited," and all you users should know that by now. Hopefully some user will come up to this page and find a major interview or some other independent, secondary in-depth sources about the subject, but as of now, he fails WP:COMPOSER in that he does not "appear at reasonable length in standard reference books on his or her genre of music," and WP:MUSICBIO in that he has not "been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself." But most of all, he fails WP:GNG. Thank you all for reading this. EditorEat ma talk page up, scotty! 00:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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This suggestion for deletion seems badly researched and un founded, many articles and reviews can be found discussing Dave Hewson's contribution to musical culture, also his work in the New Wave music scene with Twins Natalia and Poeme Electronique cannot be ignored. He has contributed greatly to the development of production music worldwide, for the past 30 years. It is also incorrect to quote APM as a main link to David Hewsons work. his main output controller is EMI, again bad research. He is definitely not best known for the music included in Spongebob, but his music for the major news coverage broadcaster worldwide, ITN/ITV, he has written the theme music, for the past 25 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davehewson (talk • contribs) 08:10, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay. Well, could you show me the many "articles and reviews," cause I couldn't find shit? And again, notability is not inherited, so arguing that "He has contributed greatly to the development of production music worldwide, for the past 30 years" and "his music for the major news coverage broadcaster worldwide, ITN/ITV, he has written the theme music, for the past 25 years" is well known is not worth it for a deletion discussion on Wikipedia. 和DITOREtails 16:26, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dusti*Let's talk!* 00:32, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Excluding the sources covering Bono, I'm seeing quite a bit of coverage for this subject. Candleabracadabra (talk) 03:00, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- There is also an author David Hewson.. But this subject is also noted in books such as [1] and [2]. I suspect there is probably Candleabracadabra (talk) 03:05, 28 August 2013 (UTC)additional coverage in niche publications not easily available online. Candleabracadabra (talk) 03:05, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Article in Sound on Sound about Dave Hewson (Composer) and his studio and work. 1980s published, not available online. Currently researching exact date of publication. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davehewson (talk • contribs) 07:07, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Both of these arguments are WP:OSO and WP:LOTSOFSOURCES. Please whoever is closing this debate ignore them. 和DITOREtails 15:55, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep "but as of now, he fails WP:COMPOSER" is clearly a flawed argument for deletion - he has worldwide notability by the nature of production music, it is circulated and used globally.
- Okay, fine. Maybe I should've better research on this topic, so I'll withdraw the nomination, but I would suggest somebody do something with that Notability issue tag that's on the page right now. 和DITOREtails 01:00, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I believe he is notable (as I tried to explain above), but a couple of these comments are from editors that have only edited this article subject and appear closely related to the subject. At the very least an explanation of Wikipedia's policy's regarding conflicts of interest, socking (using more than one account to edit) and the appropriate way for involved parties to edit (ie. posting to talk page and refraining from making edits themselves) should probably be pointed out.. Candleabracadabra (talk) 12:46, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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