Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cymbal (app) (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. This is kinda of an edge case but I think there is sufficient consensus for deletion. If NA1000 or Jamie want this draftspaced for significant improvement and resubmission via DRV, I think that might be reasonable. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 14:12, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cymbal (app)

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Non notable social media App. All coverage are mere press or not in depth by any means. If you go by BBC like news, nothing is written to justify its significance. like some other 1000 of apps available on net. Wikipedia neither a directory nor exist to create such profile. Alexa rank is ridiculous higher 789,588, proves no one really care about this one. Light2021 (talk) 20:12, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep – Meets WP:GNG as per coverage in Forbes (also see page 2 of the Forbes article), CNET, Vice, Digital Trends, Tech Times and Notizie. Of note is that the Forbes article is written by a staff writer for Forbes, not a contributor. Also, topic notability is not based upon an application's Alexa rank. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:29, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Typical Press coverage as done by other deleted Startups, non notable and Significantly achieve nothing till date from last nominations. Only one para to write. wikipedia is not a corporate or Startup directory neither its a PR host. 10000 apps are there with such news coverage. Please go through Article wikipedia facing these days. Huge number of promotional matter written this way. Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2015-04-08/Op-edLight2021 (talk) 09:19, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Dialectric (talk) 13:36, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as a WP:PROMO page on an unremarkable application / startup company. I don't see much coverage beyond launch / funding publicity. Has not achieved anything significant just yet, apart from raising $1M from investors. The amount also suggests lack of significance. K.e.coffman (talk) 00:29, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as not only can we see the current sources are in fact company-founded announcements, press releases, notices or consumer reports, but they are republished there no different had it been a company-webhosted one. Next, the sources claimed to be independent coverage in fact appeal to this same basis, given The app adopts a simple interface embracing a "less is more" vibe, allowing users to post just one song, illustrated by colorful album art. Like Instagram, Cymbal involves a home feed, personal profile, followers, likes, comments, hashtags and tags. Your Cymbal is your song of the moment--that throwback you'd jam to in your basement in high school, that song your friend's band just released on SoundCloud. Your home feed, then, becomes an updated playlist curated by your friends, your profile: the soundtrack to your life (All WP:Wikipedia is not a how-to guide contents) or The app adopts a simple interface embracing a "less is more" vibe, allowing users to post just one song, illustrated by colorful album art. Like Instagram, Cymbal involves a home feed, personal profile, followers, likes, comments, hashtags and tags. Your Cymbal is your song of the moment--that throwback you'd jam to in your basement in high school, that song your friend's band just released on SoundCloud. Your home feed, then, becomes an updated playlist curated by your friends, your profile: the soundtrack to your life. The CNET, DigitalTrends, Tech Times and Novice are all from consumer-focused publishers so they cannot be confirmed to be uninvolved in company-supplied information, since that's after all what they label themselves to be: Publishers of possibly appealing products to consumers. But of course, Wikipedia is not any of that and it's separately operated from anything a company publishes about itself, that alone is in policies WP:What Wikipedia is not and WP:Deletion policy, something non-negotiably relevant. Even if the information is claimed to be informative or factual (not that it would ever matter since we're better than subjecting ourselves to promotionalism), that alone is not listed as a Wikipedia factor of acceptance, nor should we mistake it as one. SwisterTwister talk 05:18, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep For the same reasons outlined in the first AfD; there are enough sources with reasonable depth to meet WP:GNG (Forbes, DigitalTrends, etc). OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:56, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom and SwisterTwister - GretLomborg (talk) 23:22, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete a lot of puffery ("Instagram for music") in the article, this doesn't feel like a notable app. It would be nice if there were a specific notability guideline for mobile apps, but there isn't. Power~enwiki (talk) 03:44, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.