Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison between Chinese provinces and sovereign states by GDP PPP
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Closing this as a failed bundle. No prejudice to renomination as separate discussions though given the discussion considering some kind of merge might be a consensus outcome. Barkeep49 (talk) 02:34, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Comparison between Chinese provinces and sovereign states by GDP PPP
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Trivia WP:NOTDATABASE, and possibly WP:SYNTH. Normchou 💬 06:27, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Economics-related deletion discussions. Normchou 💬 06:27, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. Normchou 💬 06:27, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- I am also nominating the following related pages as per discussion below:
- Comparison between Indian states and countries by GDP (PPP) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Comparison between U.S. states and sovereign states by GDP (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Comparison between Argentine provinces and countries by GDP (PPP) per capita (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Question: We have similar articles such as Comparison between Indian states and countries by GDP (PPP) and Comparison between U.S. states and sovereign states by GDP. Should those be included in this AfD? —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 07:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. Note how neither of the three is sourced properly. But it is a notable list to make e. g. USA Today for the US here and The Economist for China here. Reliable sources probably don't make this list for all countries. Wikipedia shouldn't either. Even if so, perhaps not for small countries, due to WP:NOTDATABASE). But for China, US, and India definitely
Keepall three. However do add reliable sources and fix the bizarre bolding in the China list --Trimton (talk) 19:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)- These stand-alone articles can be easily incorporated into ones that list those "ABC by XYZ" metrics, by creating one additional column. For instance, this has already been done in List of Chinese administrative divisions by GDP. I still don't see the value of creating separate articles even if there is no WP:RS issue. Normchou 💬 19:44, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ok well that's a good point and idea. Merge then. Has been done nicely in List of federal subjects of Russia by GDP per capita --Trimton (talk) 20:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- These stand-alone articles can be easily incorporated into ones that list those "ABC by XYZ" metrics, by creating one additional column. For instance, this has already been done in List of Chinese administrative divisions by GDP. I still don't see the value of creating separate articles even if there is no WP:RS issue. Normchou 💬 19:44, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. Note how neither of the three is sourced properly. But it is a notable list to make e. g. USA Today for the US here and The Economist for China here. Reliable sources probably don't make this list for all countries. Wikipedia shouldn't either. Even if so, perhaps not for small countries, due to WP:NOTDATABASE). But for China, US, and India definitely
- I dont understand why this page is considered for deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radom1967 (talk • contribs) 07:18, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, seems straightforwardly useful. Hyperbolick (talk) 08:19, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Jumpytoo Talk 20:57, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Argentina-related deletion discussions. Jumpytoo Talk 20:57, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Jumpytoo Talk 20:57, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Merge or keep I like Normchou's idea of merging into a column, though I do see the benefit of having a full list so you can compare multiple countries to a given state/province. WP:RS do use phrases like "X region which is comparable to the country of Y", so I don't think notability is in question. Jumpytoo Talk 21:02, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep I think Chinese provinces have enough big GDP to have its page like US states has its GDP comparsion page for Nominal and PPP. We should keep GDP comparison pages for US and China cause they are 2 biggest economies and delete page for India cause its provices dont have significant GDP and page quality is bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radom1967 (talk • contribs) 2021-04-12T02:02:24 (UTC)
- Keep per above. The articles for the US and China are useful because those countries have economies large enough that ranking their top level subdivisions against other nations is insightful. The India and Argentina articles should probably be merged though. Humsorgan (talk) 04:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The "keep" comments don't really address the policy issues mentioned by the nominator.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 15:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: The "keep" comments don't really address the policy issues mentioned by the nominator.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 15:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. WP:NOTDATABASE covers that is should not be "excessive listings of unexplained statistics" while I don't think the statistics mentioned on the articles above are excessive listings. They didn't lack context, as the context is clear to compare several states against several countries, as GDP of some of these states are bigger than some countries. It is also not reducing readability, as it didn't impede any readings. SunDawn (talk) 17:08, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Asia-related deletion discussions. EpicPupper 18:20, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
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