Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coby Hansen

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was ... well, this article is obviously horrid crufty-cruft, but there is no consensus to delete here. If y'all wanna merge it or whatever, that's a matter for a separate discussion on the talk pages. -- Y not? 00:10, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coby Hansen

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Does not seem to meet requirements from Wikipedia:Notability NotARealWord (talk) 13:45, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - A star of a 52 episode Anime series? Seriously? Just needs references. Mathewignash (talk) 13:49, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Episode count does not establish notability. Other stuff does. NotARealWord (talk) 13:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment There does not really seem all that much. I wouild like to see a bit more sourcing to establish notability.Slatersteven (talk) 14:45, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge I found this character listed at the following site but no deals http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472252/ Whatever good sources from this page should be merged with List of Transformers: Cybertron characters. And also another small source here http://www.bcdb.com/cartoon/79734-Critical.html. Silent Bob (talk) 18:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:32, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. If all it needs are references, show us that some references exist. Being a character of an anime series does not automatically make this subject notable. J Milburn (talk) 19:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep One of the main characters in a long running animated series. Dream Focus 22:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • As I said, being a character of a TV series does not automatically establish notability. Where's the real-world significance? Where're the reliable sources? J Milburn (talk) 23:07, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Clearly not independently notable, so Merge to List of Transformers: Cybertron characters. Black Kite (t) (c) 13:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: The article under discussion here has been flagged for {{rescue}} by the Article Rescue Squadron, with no explanation as to why this article should be rescued and how that could happen (per ARS instructions). SnottyWong ^yak 16:21, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge and redirect to List of Transformers: Cybertron characters. Not notable enough for its own article.
• Delete per WP:GNG due to the lack of reliable independent coverage. Claritas § 16:55, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Centralize discussion and merge and redirect as accordingly decided by Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transformers centralized discussion. There are so many articles, surely some of them can be lumped. —CodeHydro 13:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per lack of significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Claritas § 17:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  You already !voted yesterday, apparently. Alzarian16 (talk) 12:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to List of Transformers: Cybertron characters. Reasonable content but not quite notable on its own. Alzarian16 (talk) 12:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge and redirect to List of Transformers: Cybertron characters pursuant to the guidelines for elements within a notable fictional work listed at Wikipedia:Notability (fiction). No need to destroy the article or its history as the character may become more significant with future Transformer projects. Inniverse (talk) 14:14, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The actual choice is between merge and keep; it seems to me that since this seems a principal character, there is enough distinctive about him for a separate article. DGG ( talk ) 02:52, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • In-universe notability does not equal real-world notability. J Milburn (talk) 10:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge for the sake of building a consensus. No sources to WP:verify notability but perhaps a merge would help this discussion draw to a proper close. Shooterwalker (talk) 21:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I see no possible need for a merge here, the target article List of Transformers: Cybertron characters has it's own issues and already has been tagged with six diffrent issues. This article here is too in-universe, and may contain orginal reseach and should be deleted as it would not help the merge target one bit. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:52, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Its been shown time and time again the so called "sources" on this and many other Transformers articles are unreliable :See "Reliable sources for Transformers" Dwanyewest (talk) 01:51, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Full merge into List of Transformers: Cybertron characters. I attempted to rescue this article and poured a fair amounts of time into researching this character. While I admit researching fictional characters is not my forte and that I never watched a single episode, my overall judgement is that this character, while the principal human character, may be considered at best a major supporting role since human characters often have minimal involvement in the series according to this review of the Cybertron series. That said, I believe this character to be unique in the transformers franchise since he pilots the Cobybot, making him more than just a human character. Moreover, the language of the review is not entirely clear about the importance of the Cobybot form to the series, so I am willing to revise my opinion to keep if such can be demonstrated. In short, Coby Hansen and his Cobybot may be worth a long entry at the list of transformers characters, with most or all of the information found on this article--even including the bits about the toy version since the collecting of toys seems very important to the franchise as far as I can tell. —CodeHydro 17:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.