Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clive Alexander Carruthers

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The result was delete. If we have insufficient sources then merging to a list a seems counter-intuative. Spartaz ^Humbug! 16:42, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Clive Alexander Carruthers

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fails WP:BIO and WP:DIPLOMAT. previous AfDs have shown no inherent notability for ambassadors. a search for "Clive Carruthers" finds very little coverage. LibStar (talk) 06:37, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to List of Canadian diplomats. Pburka (talk) 00:14, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm reconsidering my !vote. Further research reveals that he became a fairly well known amateur archaeologist after retiring, and has published several papers. It's not enough for WP:ACADEMIC, but between that and his diplomatic career he might muster sufficient notability. I also note that LibStar's observation that a search finds very little coverage of him may be in part because Google hasn't indexed many Guatemalan newspapers from the 1970s. Pburka (talk)

would you not expect Carruthers to appear in Canadian newspapers which are well indexed in gnews? LibStar (talk) 01:50, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian sources from the 1970s are pretty spotty as well. Even when they have been scanned, the search engines rely on OCR which is often poor. (I also freely admit that I have a bias in favour of keeping articles about diplomats.) Pburka (talk) 02:10, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately I don't find much coverage in gbooks either [1]. LibStar (talk) 02:16, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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A merge is certainly out, at least to List of Canadian diplomats as proposed. Merge what, exactly? If Carruthers had biographical information included there, he'd be the only one with such? He's either notable or he's not. --BDD (talk) 18:53, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- What would be wrong with adding info about the positions held to the list List of Canadian diplomats? I submit that such information would improve the list. Pburka (talk) 18:21, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:53, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, buff bills 7701 20:35, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - While diplomats are not Auto-Keeps under a special guideline, I'm having a hard time understanding how this particular challenge helps to improve the encyclopedia. Carrite (talk) 16:58, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Canadian diplomats, per WP:ANYBIO, WP:BEFORE. -- Trevj (talk) 10:41, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No evidence of notability. Nick-D (talk) 01:15, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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