Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clifton House Preparatory School

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The result was no consensus. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:10, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a private primary/elementary school and such schools need at least a distinctive feature or good coverage in RS to have any prospect to be considered notable. This school has no such feature or coverage and fails WP:ORG. Delete. Just Chilling (talk) 22:32, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:38, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:38, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:38, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep until a better solution is found The cold logic says delete- but this is more complex. Harrogate always was dismissed disparagingly as the 'town of tea-rooms and preparatory schools'. (My grandparents didn't do NPOV) This is one of a cluster of preparatory school articles we have that served the wool belt of Bradford and Leeds and fed into St Peter's School, York founded in 627 AD. See also Clifton Pre-preparatory School, St Olave's School, York, West End Preparatory School, Harrogate defunct, New College, Harrogate (defunct) and elsewhere in Yorkshire, Woodleigh School, North Yorkshire. A possible merge to make [Preparatory schools in Harrogate and North Yorkshire] could be one solution but I think not- or [Harrogate Crescents]. This article has one thing going for it (and against it)- extensive research by an enthusiastic academic. In itself it is not notable, but seen from an architectural perspective it may be, or just as part of the cluster, or by including the sociology/Psychology of textile entrepreneurs.ClemRutter (talk) 11:30, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For information:-"CLIFTON HOUSE SCHOOL". www.aeden.plus.com. Retrieved 3 March 2019.: is one reference but not RS. ClemRutter (talk) 12:43, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment At worst it should be redirected to Harrogate#Education per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, there's no reason to delete. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:13, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - I would normally agree. However, it is not mentioned there and a redirect to an article where it is not mentioned is bad practice since it would simply be annoying to the reader. That section lists notable secondary schools so adding it there would be inappropriate. Just Chilling (talk) 21:05, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with you in that case we shouldn't generally redirect to a page where the topic isn't covered. Unless we normally cover preparatory schools in sections large towns then it should be deleted. We obviously do this for villages but this is more difficult for large towns since its more likely to overload the article. I still think mentioning it in the education section may be viable though. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:20, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment : I am still looking for a cluster that we could add it to- I Googled Yorkshire Schools and found a rich band of historic material from the 1820s. Dickens used one in setting Nicholas Nickleby. There is a [Naomi Clifford].Sutherland.I haven't any proposals for how we do the link- between todays staid prepschools and pre-Victorian internment! ClemRutter (talk) 22:37, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I would support it being added, and redirected, to List of schools in North Yorkshire#Primary and preparatory schools. There is no reason why sourced historic facts couldn't be added there, either. Just Chilling (talk) 22:02, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment The list of schools articles are just that, simply a list, all of the English ones were reduced to this previously (see for example). Personally I think that the lists should be more informative and at least give basic details for each entry as most of them would be classed as non-notable. You can then have a redirect to the list or an article for each entry. Keith D (talk) 15:07, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.