Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chemical Reaction (artscene group)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (jarbarf) (talk) 23:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chemical Reaction (artscene group)

Uncertain if notable. Has been prodded (and contested) and speedy-tagged and -deleted and contested. Claims of "it's notable/important" have not been supported with RS cites. Seems like it could be important historically and/or in its genre. DMacks (talk) 15:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete A7/nn-group. Everthing's important to somebody, I guess, but there's just no notability here. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I don't think it is notable. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:41, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep - Chemical Reaction is one of the oldest and well established art groups from Europe. I agree that there should be improvements made to the article, but there is a general issue when it comes to the definition of "reliable sources". The whole subject of this type of art happened outside the coverage mainstream media. There are barely any mentionings in any type of print publication, even for the largest, oldest and most respected groups. I was avoiding to look for diskmag citations, because it would be necessary to establish notability for those diskmags first, which is as hard as establishing notability for the group itself. p.s. I created the article originally, just FYI. I was the leader of a competing art group, which has an article too and survived multiple AfDs already. --roy<sac> ^Talk! .oOo. 16:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Could you provide links to those AfDs so we can see some precedent? DMacks (talk) 06:24, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmmm I don't really know if this article is in the main point of interests on what wikipedia is about. But i know for sure that cRO is a big player in the underground internet scene for 10 years now, so they are quite respectable for their work and arts. I think cRO doesn't really care if you delete the article - whenever wikipedia dies - cRO is still alive.^Talk! .oOo. 00:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.117.182.67 (talk) [reply]
Keep. This noteworthy organization has a history extending ten years back, and is appropriate for coverage in a niche encyclopedia such as this. RFerreira (talk) 17:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.