Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Celebrity and notable guest appearances in Doctor Who

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. I really sat and thought about this one, and here's what I came up with. For now, I'm going to assume good faith and hope that the list is trimmed and referenced, since it is huge at this point and causes the look of "indiscriminate". If nothing if done with the list in the next couple months, then by all means create another AfD and we will try another course of action. I disagree with any merge solely because of the size of this article and the size of like articles. Work together to make this a good list, then we'll be able to see if the salvaged list is worthy. Wizardman 19:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Celebrity and notable guest appearances in Doctor Who

This seems to violate Wikipedia:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information, as well as just being a very trivial list. The word "notable guest appearance" can't just be easily defined in my view. RobJ1981 (talk) 18:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

keep Seems like a reasonable topic for a list. Whether a list is indiscriminate is subjective and I'd be inclined to see a list of notable guests on one of the longest-running television shows ever as not indiscriminate. JoshuaZ (talk) 19:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. A man of honour (talk) 19:16, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment While I think this is not so indiscriminate as, say, listing ALL guest appearances over the show's multi-decade run(s), I suspect this is the type of material that is best placed at Wikia Tardis. --Dhartung | Talk 21:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to some suitable article such as List of Doctor Who episodes. --GW_Simulations_{User Page | Talk} 23:10, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Therre are specialist DW Wikis -- sublet this to one of them and get/keep the cruft off the main Wiki -- Simon Cursitor (talk) 12:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the page, as I see irt, is just the whole cast list for the 190 odd stories DW has had. In my mind, notable guest appearances should cover people like (from Tenth Doctor only, there's more going back) Kylie, Freema, Mark Gattiss Will ^(talk) 13:34, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fancruft without clearly-defined specifications, as nominated. - 52 Pickup (deal) 15:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Exterminate~~ Delete a list of everyone who was in a 26-year show, whether for one scene (John Cleese) or 6 different serials spanning 20 years (Peter Halliday). And it says "most of the celebrities listed are famous primarily as actors" - what's notable about having actors in a TV drama? Totnesmartin (talk) 10:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but improve - I think this list has its place on Wikipedia, but it needs work. I spent a long time on it a while back - introducing tables etc. to clean it up. However, it lacks citations, so they'd be a priority if it survives. Notability is a somewhat subjective concept so I can see why difficulties arise with this article. I think a collective effort could vastly improve this article. I'm almost always in favour of trying to improve an article before deleting it. Wolf of Fenric (talk) 03:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep with strings - the article should have references, etc, added, to show notability... particularly for season four guest appearances, of which we now know a few. If it's not much better in three months, nominate again. --Porcupine (prickle me! · contribs · status) 07:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the list needs cutting down, as I don't think all the people in that list should be in it (most of them are actors, ans actors tend to appear in shows), but the list overall is good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by StuartDD (talk • contribs) 08:43, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but trim. Right now, it lists every guest star that ever appeared in Doctor Who. The list should defenitely be trimmed to include only the special guest stars. As for the "merge with List of Doctor Who serials" suggestion above: not a good idea, as that list is huge already. — Edokter • Talk • 11:37, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - if it was deleted, the likelihood is that it would be created again in order that such information doesn't overwhelm other articles (over the course of 40+ years there have certainly been enough notable guest appearances to justify an article/list); agree that it needs trimming, though (and I've suggested something else on its talk page, some time ago, too) Stephenb (Talk) 17:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.