Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carol Cox

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. - Daniel.Bryant 11:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Carol Cox (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

NN person. Fails WP:BIO and WP:PORNBIO. Dismas|^(talk) 11:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, does not meet Wikipedia biography standards. Kyriakos 12:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Ambivalent I created the page because I thought she was notable, notable for -- if her site's correct -- being the first adult entertaiment presence on the 'net, and CEO of one of the oldest Adult Internet companies. If these aren't enough to mark her as notable, though, I'll not be overly upset if the page were deleted. --Dr Archeville 13:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Does not meet standards or WP:BIO. There do not appear to be multiple independent reliable and verifiable sources in which this person or this person's performances were a primary subject. The person's website is the only reference, and is neither reliable nor independent. Edison 17:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nomination - interesting that she's apparently the first online adult entertainer, but hard to get past that. Tip of the hat to Dr. Archeville, thanks very much for your understanding. My suggestion would be to see if there are other pointers to that effect out there online - remember, you can change our minds. --Dennisthe2 00:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change vote to Keep, article as it exists meets standards. Good pointers there, Dhartung. --Dennisthe2 19:46, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, meets WP:BIO with profiles in Globe and Mail and Montreal Mirror as well as appearances in netmag and at least one book that I can find. --Dhartung | Talk 09:02, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Dhartung. Tabercil 16:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The profiles from reliable sources indicate sufficiant notability. --Oakshade 20:56, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Carol Cox was a pioneer in online sexuality. I heard of her as early as 1997. People who are notable for advances in sexual freedom are often not covered by the mainstream press because of prudery and other forms of squeamishness. They are underground celebrities. Despite the blackout, sex workers have contributed greatly to the development of Internet technology. See the Globe and Mail article about her by Craig Silverman: Naked Ambition by

VHS wasn't the only technology to be quickly co-opted and championed by the porn industry. "As it stands now, new technology is probably sexualized in the first 10 minutes of its development," said Michael Storch, a professor in McGill's faculty of religious studies, in an October, 2005, interview. The first pay-TV channels relied heavily on porn for profits, as did (and do) hotel pay-TV offerings. The adult industry was also among the first to monetize the internet through mail order, and then via monthly memberships paid by credit card. The trend continues. Some $400 million was spent worldwide on mobile-phone porn in 2004, according to Strategy Analytics, a research firm in Boston, and it predicts the mobile porn market will be worth $5 billion by 2010

Many of today's most commonly used and valuable internet applications were either invented or perfected by the adult industry. It was instrumental in driving the introduction of on-line credit-card processing, improving video streaming and perfecting the compression of images for on-line viewing. Porn-site operators introduced webcams and private chats long before they made their way to the average desktop. When DVDs and digital video cameras hit the market, pornographers were the first to jump on board. "If it wasn't for the adult market," says McAlear [her husband and business partner], "live and streaming video wouldn't have developed as fast as it did."

Carol Cox is a figure of historical importance. The article could use some more detail about her significance, but should be kept because it is of interest to social commentators such as myself who follow underground trends and phenomena that are often much more important than their mainstream coverage would indicate. Jules Siegel 23:21, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.