Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CareCloud

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The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 09:21, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Private medical IT shop. Generic. References WP:MILL. Fails WP:NCORP, WP:ORGCRIT. scope_creep^Talk 01:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 02:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 02:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as per nom. Fails WP:NCORP. Pure WP:ADMASK case. -Hatchens (talk) 17:35, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Just because an article is about a corporation does not make it "WP:ADMASK" or WP:MILL. The Boston Globe article linked in the article [1] is in-depth, independent, reliable, and a secondary source. I've also found this PCMag review of the software [2] which satisfies the above criteria as well. These are multiple sources that satisfy the conditions of WP:NCORP. If keep isn't an option this article should be merged instead into MTBC of which CareCloud is a subsidiary. Chess (talk) (please use {{ping|Chess}} on reply) 23:35, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The first reference is a press-release, the second an affiliated marketing skit, paid for. Both fails WP:SIRS, WP:CORPDEPTH. scope_creep^Talk#

I'm confused, how is the first one a press release? It's attributed to a Boston Globe staff writer and there's no indication in any way that it's a "press release". What are you basing this claim off of? How is the second an "affiliated marketing skit"? Are you trying to tell me that the review was paid for by CareCloud? Do you have any evidence of that whatsoever? And how do either of those sources fail WP:CORPDEPTH? The Boston Globe article went pretty in depth on how Care Cloud differs itself from other products by being a cloud based electronic health management system with an app and website as opposed to on-premises hosted health management systems. Likewise for the PCMag article which goes in depth on the software itself and aspects of this. Wikilinking policy and policy-adjacent essays is meaningless unless you're actually willing to explain how the policies are applicable here. Chess (talk) (please use {{ping|Chess}} on reply) 01:12, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It is definitely a press-release. What indicates its a press-release is the smiling face, the comments, I love the city,” said Santal and the announcement, they are opening a new office in the city. It is routine PR. More so, it just an announcement, so fails WP:CORPDEPTH and WP:SIRS. The second one is a 2-page review. It not much of a review to be honest. I've taken part in a real software product review. The output is usually very large report. This is a small consumer report that fails WP:PRODUCTREV. The company is non-notable. scope_creep^Talk 10:35, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect and Merge appropriate content to MTBC. The references in the article fail WP:ORGIND as they are based on company announcements and/or interviews with company officers. HighKing⁺⁺ 19:39, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: agreed that just because an article is a company does not automatically make it "WP:ADMASK" or WP:MILL. It's time that editors start realizing that and really go into the sources and assess whether an article is notable or not. The acquisition is significant and I do think it warrants its own page given its notable company history. That being said, the "awards" section here is completely unnecessary (and outdated since the company no longer exists). If that section is rid of, I support Keep. --Jjj84206 (talk) 21:32, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*Comment Jjj84206 is a WP:SPA and has made few edits to Wikipedia. scope_creep^Talk 08:23, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• :Scope creep, noted! Hatchens (talk) 16:39, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Lets examine the references.

* Bloomberg]. This is a paid listing service. It fails WP:SIRS and WP:ORGIND.

* Web health records firm expands to Boston Albert Santalo, founder and chief executive of CareCloud, said he was lured to Boston by the area’s health care and technology expertise and already has hired about 15 people here with a nice smiling picture. Essentially an announcement of moving. Fails WP:ORGIND.

* 15 things to know about CareCloud Taken straight from the website. Fails WP:ORGIND. Fails WP:SIRS.

* CareCloud Concludes 2014 With Rapid Growth and Product Innovation, Driven By Large Medical Groups “2014 was a transformational year for CareCloud,” said Albert Santalo, CareCloud’s Founder and CEO. “While we continued to deliver powerful solutions to support all medical practices, we expanded our presence among larger groups, bringing on patient care leaders such as Orange County Urology and Core Orthopaedic Medical Center Fails WP:ORGIND. A dependent source.

* Venture Capital Deals An announcement of investment. Fails WP:CORPDEPTH standard notices, brief announcements, and routine coverage, such as: of a capital transaction, such as raised capital

* CareCloud takes $25.5M in debt financing to expand medical group data An announcement of investment. Fails WP:NCORP standard notices, brief announcements, and routine coverage, such as: of a capital transaction, such as raised capital

* Q&A: CareCloud CEO Albert Santalo reflects on year of fast growth, looks ahead Fails WP:ORGIND. A chat with the ceo.

* CareCloud Upgrades EHR Platform With Faster Charting Fails WP:CORPDEPTH standard notices, brief announcements, and routine coverage, such as: of a product or a product line launch, sale, change, or discontinuance,

* CareCloud CEO: We may go public next year Another smiling ceo picture. Cloud-based health IT provider CareCloud may launch an IPO next year, CEO Albert Santalo said. Fails WP:ORGIND.

The rest of the references are the same, very poor run-of-the-mill business news that is either dependent failing WP:SIRS or WP:CORPDEPTH/WP:ORGIND. There is no redeeming references in this article. scope_creep^Talk 08:38, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per scope creep's detailed analysis of the sources. This does not appear to be a notable company. ‑Scottywong| [chatter] || 01:46, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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