Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CKCP-FM

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 19:53, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CKCP-FM

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Two community radio stations, not verifiable as passing WP:BCAST criteria for the notability of radio stations: they have no entries in RecNet or Spectrum Management, no profiles on the Canadian Communications Foundation, and no indication that they've ever been licensed as there have been never been any CRTC decisions authorizing a community radio station in either community. Both call signs are also listed as available, i.e. unassigned, by Industry Canada. It is possible that these exist (or previously existed) as unlicensed stations under Canada's equivalent to USian Part 15 rules, but they have definitely never existed as licensed radio stations for the purposes of passing NMEDIA. Bearcat (talk) 18:50, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 18:50, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 18:50, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Raymie (t • c) 18:52, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Even I can't argue this. After doing a search on REC, it seems what would be a translator (for us here in the US) is located nearby on 96.3. There is this website, but as you can see "Mandated under the authority of Chief & Council", but not the CRTC. That eliminates CKCP-FM. There are no radio stations licensed to Repulse Bay, Nunavut. I can find previous mentions, via a Google search, and Wikipedia mirrors. The only thing that pops when I Google "CINJ-FM" is, oddly, The Cancer Institute of New Jersey, which uses the abbreviation CINJ. Thus, CINJ-FM is off the board. Not verifiable per V, no sources per RS (except for that First Nations site, I'll leave that to Bearcat), possible Part-15-ish broadcasts, no licenses, not even close to passing NMEDIA. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 19:46 on July 21, 2020 (UTC) • #WearAMask • #BlackLivesMatter

Neutralhomer, two things. It seems that message is on a number of things and has something to do with governance structure: per the website, some programs have boards of directors, but The majority of the Programs & Services are mandated under the authority of Chief & Council. I note that sometimes you...get that with First Nations radio. These articles were found as part of clearing the members of Category:Radio station articles without infoboxes, of which the vast majority were small Canadian outlets. As part of another radio cleanup, that of finding any uses of {{Infobox radio station}} without |name= (many having been introduced over the years because of a years-long bug with TemplateData and VisualEditor), I ran across CKNN-FM, where an IP had asked for the article title to be moved from the call sign in 2019, and which said at the time that the station was in "so-called Bella Coola, British Columbia" and Nuxalk Radio has licence to operate granted by Nuxalk Stataltmc (hereditary leadership). It is far from my place to adjudge that sovereignty issue (CKON-FM comes to mind too), but that's also not how this works. Raymie (t • c) 03:53, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That page does include an indicator that the station broadcasts programs from Missinipi Broadcasting Corporation which is backed up by the network's station list. I also found some posts on the Sturgeon Lake First Nation Facebook mentioning that the station broadcasts radio bingo, so it's operated—with evidence as recent as April! There is a potential WP:ATD there. Raymie (t • c) 04:01, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that the "The majority of the Programs & Services are mandated under the authority of Chief & Council" line has to do with the First Nations. But, unfortunately, that isn't enough to pass NMEDIA. A station (US or Canada) must be licensed with the FCC (US) or CRTC (Canada) for it to eek past the minimum of notability and verifiablity of NMEDIA. Now, if there was more information out there, it could be argued CKCP fell under the "notable Part 15" rule of NMEDIA, but it would need serious third-party coverage (ie: newspapers, television and radio coverage, etc.). I don't see that here. Bearcat knows I usually argue for inclusion of radio stations. Him and I have gotten into it before. So for me to not argue for inclusion, that says something. I wish I could, but I can't. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 14:14 on July 22, 2020 (UTC) • #WearAMask • #BlackLivesMatter

Delete non notable --Devokewater @ 20:05, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and above discussion TheAnayalator (talk) 22:32, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.