Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burlington mayoral elections

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The result was Speedy Keep‎. Nomination withdrawn (non-admin closure) Let'srun (talk) 01:12, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Burlington mayoral election (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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More electioncruft articles, except all of these are in a town of less than 50,000 people, or 870th in the country. Not notable for the usual reasons, Wikipedia is NOT a political database. Fails the general notability guideline, as all sources are WP:MILL in local news stations or papers. Additionally, no coverage is sustaining, failing WP:NEVENT. I am Nominating the following articles as well:

Update: I am withdrawing for the 2024 election. Coverage from the boston globe is significant enough — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1ctinus (talk • contribs) Withdrawn by nominator admins can close this. I clearly have no support for deletion. This is becoming a WP:TRAINWRECK. I may renominate some of the ones without notability INDIVIDUALLY later. I really underestimated how much coverage there was for a tiny state like Vermont.

• Keep as Burlington is the largest city in Vermont and its mayoralty has served as the stepping stone for many politicians in the state's history. Its elections are clearly notable. Jon698 (talk) 00:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Also these elections did have sustained coverage. It occurred for over a year as the elections occurred. There is an obvious reason why nobody talks about an election after it happens. I don't see too many recent news stories about the 2018 Tennessee gubernatorial election. Jon698 (talk) 01:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Which election had sustained coverage? For example, 2012 only had a single source. I did not include 2009 because it looked like it had some sustained coverage. WP:ITSNOTABLE is not an argument unfortunately. If you want to compromise, I would be fine with merging these articles. -1ctinus📝🗨 01:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• These articles just need some work. They shouldn't be deleted just because somebody hasn't gotten around to expanding them yet. I could drop my work on Nazi films right now and do it if that would change your opinion. Jon698 (talk) 01:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  👍, if significant, lasting coverage can be found I would certainly withdraw the nomination. -1ctinus📝🗨 01:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I will start work once I finish the book I'm currently reading. I only have around 60 pages left to read. Jon698 (talk) 02:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I will not be able to start work on these articles at the moment due to a problem with Wikipedia Library's access to Newspapers.com. Jon698 (talk) 18:27, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Determining notability has nothing do with the current state of an article: WP:NEXIST. While some editors think it is good Wikiquette to make general improvements to an article when notability is in question, there is no requirement to do so for resolving an AfD discussion. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 23:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That being said, I could not find articles in a search that show the articles notability. Nobody has given actual links to anything that has so far. -1ctinus📝🗨 00:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  How is the first citation in the article [1] not an indication of notability? It's a reliable source discussing the event. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 00:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Yeah, of course the sources are ROTM coverage. Run-of-the-mill means coverage that is expected as part of a news outlet's regular coverage of events in its area, so naturally 95% of articles about local elections are going to fall under this category. There is plenty of coverage cited on this page, so I don't see the argument for deletion. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 05:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  the problem is that articles need significant, independent, lasting coverage to be notable, and volume does not matter. Otherwise, literally everything that happens in the news would be notable. -1ctinus📝🗨 11:34, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Vermont. Shellwood (talk) 10:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 11:04, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep the article discusses, with reliable sourcing, fundraising efforts, changes to voting methods, significance of the candidates, inter alia. These are *not* ROTM issues (eg reading minutes in a council meeting would be run of the mill, a debate over the minutes would not). Passes WP:NEVENT. Could the article be improved? Sure, but AfD is not cleanup. The bundled nomination is too broad, a quick scan of the other articles shows similar content levels (with the exception of 2012). Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 00:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I removed the 2024 election. Can you check the other ones for notability? -1ctinus📝🗨 00:19, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  HI @1ctinus can you please undo that edit, there needs to be a record that there was a notability disucssion of that article, removing the nomination will not show this has happened. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 00:23, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  👍 -1ctinus📝🗨 00:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @1ctinus Thank you Goldsztajn (talk) 00:30, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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