Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bridgeport Hope School
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:31, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Bridgeport Hope School
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Non-notable school. As a K-8 school it doesn't qualify for the inherent notability of high schools. Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:04, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
- I would also support a redirect to Bridgeport, Connecticut. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:14, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Hello, I am the principal of the school. Our sister school, Bridgeport International Academy, has a wikipedia page which gave us the idea to create a wikipedia page for BHS. Are you saying that any school lower than high school isn't allowed to have a wikipedia page? (BHS is an elementary and middle school) I will be looking through Wikipedia's policies on the matter but any further explanation would be appreciated. (As will any advice to prevent deletion if possible and correctly follow wikipedia's guidelines) Elizabeth Deshotel 6:09 pm, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Beth.De: Wikipedia requires all articles to be notable. Per WP:ORG, "An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources." In most cases elementary and middle schools are not notable by Wikipedia's standards, but there is no rule against including lower schools per-se if that school has received significant non-trivial coverage in secondary sources. In practice, articles on high schools/secondary schools and school districts are usually presumed to be notable even without notability being explicitly demonstrated, but this doesn't extend to lower schools unless they can clearly demonstrate that they can meet the notability guideline. I would also suggest that you review Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy, as editing to promote your own interests, including your business interests, is strongly discouraged. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:40, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Beth.De: Wikipedia requires all articles to be notable. Per WP:ORG, "An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources." In most cases elementary and middle schools are not notable by Wikipedia's standards, but there is no rule against including lower schools per-se if that school has received significant non-trivial coverage in secondary sources. In practice, articles on high schools/secondary schools and school districts are usually presumed to be notable even without notability being explicitly demonstrated, but this doesn't extend to lower schools unless they can clearly demonstrate that they can meet the notability guideline. I would also suggest that you review Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy, as editing to promote your own interests, including your business interests, is strongly discouraged. --Ahecht (TALK
- @Ahecht:: Hello, my name is Dawn and I am the one who created the page for the school. (And the one who suggested it.) I'm a part time worker there. Yes it was for the business, but I also thought it would be a good way for people who want to learn about the school, as wikipedia is a popular place to research things. I didn't know of the notability rule, I always thought wikipedia was more free in terms of creating articles, but I do understand because otherwise they'll be all kinds of pointless articles created. (Like the student who saw me making the page and wanted me to make him one of himself. Yeah sorry but no, kid.) I'm still working on the page and I'll try my best to get it to follow all of wikipedia's requirements, but if it's pointless I would like to be told so in advance by an administrator. -Dawn 12:49, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Dawn.M.D: If you have reliable third-party sources that would help to establish notability to add to the article you should do so, but otherwise if you don't want to risk "pointless" editing you should wait for this discussion to be closed. Whether or not an article stays is determined by a consensus of editor opinions, with the final determination of the consensus being made by an administrator after a week (or longer if there hasn't been enough discussion or a consensus hasn't emerged). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:14, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Dawn.M.D: If you have reliable third-party sources that would help to establish notability to add to the article you should do so, but otherwise if you don't want to risk "pointless" editing you should wait for this discussion to be closed. Whether or not an article stays is determined by a consensus of editor opinions, with the final determination of the consensus being made by an administrator after a week (or longer if there hasn't been enough discussion or a consensus hasn't emerged). --Ahecht (TALK
- @Ahecht:: Hello, my name is Dawn and I am the one who created the page for the school. (And the one who suggested it.) I'm a part time worker there. Yes it was for the business, but I also thought it would be a good way for people who want to learn about the school, as wikipedia is a popular place to research things. I didn't know of the notability rule, I always thought wikipedia was more free in terms of creating articles, but I do understand because otherwise they'll be all kinds of pointless articles created. (Like the student who saw me making the page and wanted me to make him one of himself. Yeah sorry but no, kid.) I'm still working on the page and I'll try my best to get it to follow all of wikipedia's requirements, but if it's pointless I would like to be told so in advance by an administrator. -Dawn 12:49, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Thank you Ahecht, for taking the time to explain to us the reasoning behind why the page doesn't follow Wikipedia's standards. Recently we've been working to improve our online presence on the one hand to help the business, but also to help more people realize that we are a separate school from BIA. (We often get confused as a high school or our address is listed as their address) Because of Wikipedia's presence online we thought it'd be a good way to help with the latter. We of course didn't mean to break any rules and we understand if the page must be deleted. Dawn says she may make a few minor adjustments to the page in terms of secondary sources to get it to fit with the policies, but at this point we will wait for the consensus. One question I have is however, with the deletion of the page, will the images uploaded for the use on the page be deleted as well, or should we request deletion for those separately? Elizabeth Deshotel 2:35 pm, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Connecticut-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 04:57, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 04:57, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Delete - non-notable junior/middle school. Written (in good faith as an advert. WP:NOT. Atlas-maker (talk) 18:07, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - not notable. WP:NOT SW3 5DL (talk) 18:09, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
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