Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bobby C. Baker

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:21, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bobby C. Baker

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Fails notability criteria WP:BLP, none of the references meet the criteria for notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 15:24, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Medicine. HighKing⁺⁺ 15:24, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:26, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doctor doing his job. Appears to have gotten a 25 yr pin from the radiation society, not much beyond that. Only 4 hits in GScholar. Oaktree b (talk) 15:54, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am leaning towards Keep because it seems to me Baker meets Criterium 3 or WP:NPROF (membership of a fellowship). The award may also signal meeting criterium 7 - substantial impact outside academia in an academic capacity for founding the Maui Hawaii's only cancer treatment center in 1993. JamesKH76 (talk) 17:02, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Fellowship in such medical-related societies is a senior membership level that you apply for yourself, not the same as a Fellow of American academic societies. Baker is a practicing radiation oncologist and administrator not an academic, so NPROF does not apply. However there may be sources for meeting the GNG. StarryGrandma (talk) 21:39, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I just added a section on a lawsuit brought against him for being involved in the death of a patient with a radiation overdose. This constitutes at least one independent published reliable source about him, and brings him over the threshold of notability, in my opinion. A loose necktie (talk) 12:09, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The lawsuit was brought primarily against the Institute where Baker is the President and also against Baker and another doctor. The lawsuit was settled with the Institute paying $13.5m and each of the doctors settling for $1m each which was the maximum of their insurance policies. It wasn't a criminal offense but when we look at WP:PERP or any other policy/guideline/essay, there's nothing to suggest that being involved in a civil and settled and unremarkable lawsuit establishes notability. In addition, Baker only gets a mere mention (and a quote), there's nothing about that article which meets the criteria for establishing his notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 12:59, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete insufficient independent coverage, nowhere near SIGCOV territory atm. I would have be inclined to vote keep anyway had he founded the first cancer treatment center in Hawaii, but it seems he founded the first radiation treatment center for cancer, in Maui. Draken Bowser (talk) 01:02, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Doesn't meet any NPROF criteria, so instead would need to be assessed through GNG, which also appears to be failed through lack of SIGCOV. JoelleJay (talk) 21:24, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:48, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete does not meet GNG nor NPROF per above. Femke (talk) 16:41, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.