Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Brown (radio personality)

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The result was delete. Per the overall consensus and the analysis of the sources provided and refutation of the policies cited in the argument to keep by multiple users. KaisaL (talk) 03:14, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Brown (radio personality) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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A very ordinary DJ with a 30 year career at a NYC station. Fails WP:BASIC; WP:ENTERTAINER; and WP:ANYBIO Steve Quinn (talk) 16:25, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Passes WP:BASIC and WP:ENTERTAINER. See Longtime WCBS-FM Midday Jock, ‘Consummate Pro’ Bill Brown Dies at 69 or numerous issues of Billboard. Andrew D. (talk) 18:32, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't pass WP:BASIC "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability". There is no substantial coverage in multiple independent sources. Also, I am not seeing other coverage in multiple independent sources - I see one article in a source that I question as being reliable - the one linked to above. Steve Quinn (talk) 00:35, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Also Doesn't pass WP:ENTERTAINER, in order to so this person should: (1) have had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions , which he hasn't; (2) A large fan base or a significant "cult" following -- which has not been shown to be true by any coverage in reliable sources; (3) he has NOT made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment -- or else this would be significantly covered in reliable sources. He stayed at one radio station for over 30 years - that is all that happened.

The only bio produced shows nothing remarkable about this person, all it shows is he had a long career - it verifies he existed. Additionally, it is a local publication. Also, those sources from Billboard magazine need to be produced - I don't see anything such thing during Google searches or Google News or Newspaper searches. Steve Quinn (talk) 06:24, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:39, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. The source provided by Andrew D above links to a localized publication called FishbowlNY — and the article itself cites just two sources of which one is another article in a local newspaper, and the other is his death notice on the web page of the funeral home that held his death services (i.e. a primary source, and a routine one at that since every single person who dies will always have one of those regardless of their encyclopedic notability or lack thereof.) So the evidence does not support that he's the subject of enough substantive coverage to satisfy WP:GNG — the only reliable sources that have been shown here at all are purely local coverage of him in a local context. A local radio personality does not get over WP:CREATIVE just because a couple of pieces of local coverage exist, because local coverage of local radio personalities always exists and we would thus have to keep an article about every single person who ever worked for any radio station at all. For anything short of national network prominence a radio personality must be extralocally sourceable as more notable than the thousands upon thousands of other people in the world who have been longtime local radio personalities in local media markets. But nothing here demonstrates or sources that he's more notable than the norm. Bearcat (talk) 18:50, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as he was apparently only from 2 local stations, nothing establishing independence. SwisterTwister talk 19:34, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.