Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben Collins (programmer)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Debian_Project_Leader#Project_leaders. Lankiveil (speak to me) 13:37, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Collins (programmer)

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Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Rescue_Squadron_-_Rescue_list#Ben_Collins_.28programmer.29 Lentower (talk) 16:43, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not notable. There are a few passing mentions in primary sources but a complete lack of significant coverage in independent and reliable secondary sources. The article has been tagged with a notability warning for over a year and nothing has changed. A lone discussion on the Talk page from 2 years ago concludes that the subject is not notable. Chris Bainbridge (talk) 11:48, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete- No significant coverage found in the primary sources. A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 12:03, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as above. Does not appear to be an encyclopedically notable person. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:57, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This person has done significant work in notable projects & works. WP:Creative applies. Unclear if adequate research has been done with off-line paper sources, e.g. at a research university's libraries. Unclear if adequate research has been done on-line, including his full first name and various qualifying keywords, (which is why I've added two additional Find Sources at the top of this article). Lentower (talk) 16:18, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ‑Scottywong| confabulate _ 14:14, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete the two elected positions are nothing more than the "Keep the lights on" functionality a janitor can do. No substantial arguments for WP:CREATIVE I see apply to this. Not seeing a significant justification that would put him on par with Hans Reiser or Linus Torvalds (yes I know WP:OSE is a bad justification, but it's useful to compare similar articles). Hasteur (talk) 18:13, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Running a large project over the Internet is not just "Keeping the lights on". It certainly takes much more skill than being a janitor.
In this case, Debian is a large project for a major variant of Linux being used by many people. Project management is also harder with volunteers. The programmers who volunteer on Debian are often immature with substantial issues that need to be resolved to help them be productive. So being Debian Project Leader needs many skills: including those of an excellent psychologist, a deep understanding of complex technical issues, and being able to motivate difficult people to improve Debian with the skills of a top-notch manager.
One doesn't have to be as famous as Reiser or Torvalds to be notable enough for a WP article. Lentower (talk) 16:43, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per other user "A.Minkowiski" and user "Hasteur", The article clearly does not meet WP:BIO described standards, going forward to user "Chris Bainbridge" comment on AFD nomination seems valid enough to concur with the deletion of the article. Science.Warrior (talk) 16:40, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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