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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 01:36, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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This article claims to document a feature of human evolution but it reads more like a fringe theory. The author of the page is a known sock puppet of Joseph Jordania, who invented the term and who has a history of trying to use Wikipedia as a platform for self-promotion. The page has no reliable sources and the topic is both imaginary and not notable. Dusty|💬|You can help! 13:39, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 14:18, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 14:18, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military and combat-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 14:18, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philosophy-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:08, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Behavioural science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:09, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Since submitting this AfD I've discovered that the sock puppets referred to in the aforementioned complaint (which resulted in a temporary block at the time) have systematically gone through and cross-referenced Jordania's theories throughout the encyclopedia, mentioning him wherever possible. Dusty|💬|You can help! 16:40, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I tagged this article with issues two years ago, wondering if the single-source problem was the result of lazy editing rather than the article's being a vehicle for self-promotion. The article hasn't been improved, and by now it is reasonable to assume that the reason why is that there isn't any significant treatment of this concept. I have been unable to find any. In the parlance, this article fails the notability guideline, the topic not having received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. RJC TalkContribs 16:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Fringe theory whose notability isn't established. A search of Google Scholar for the term returns no useful results: [1]. Moreover, analysis of the experiences of combatants generally notes that they actually have high levels of mental alertness (for fairly obvious reasons). Military personnel are indoctrinated to work together as a team through extensive training and the social organisation of their unit, and most recognise that they need to fight as a team to maximize their chances of success and survival (all professional military units are trained, equipped and organised to fight as a cohesive team). Suggestions that soldiers don't experience fear or pain and work as "one collective organism" due to their mental state in battle are laughably wrong. Nick-D (talk) 01:14, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I've just removed the almost identical text on this fringe theory which was spammed across a range of articles. Nick-D (talk) 06:49, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.