Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barret Oliver

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep, sources were added, and nominator withdrew. (non-admin closure) Tofutwitch11 ^(TALK) 00:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barret Oliver

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Unsourced BLP, extant since 2007, with major neutrality issues. This article either needs sourcing by interested parties, or deleting. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 23:00, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw based on sourcing. Could someone wrap this up if they see it as closeable? Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 23:09, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, but clean it up. It's not so hard to make this a simple sourced stub instead of putting it up for deletion. Garion96 (talk) 23:26, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I understand what you're saying, but it seems no-one is willing to put in the time. The burden of evidence lies with the editors who add material, and those editors don't seem to be interested. No-one is willing or able to put in the work, and unless this AfD spurs people into sourcing the article, deletion is the only sensible option. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 23:52, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I also understand what you're saying. Unsourced blp should go and I agree. But it only took me 2 minutes to get rid of the unsourced crap, find 1 source and have leave a decent (although definitely can be improved and expanded) stub behind. Garion96 (talk) 20:15, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:42, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:42, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
delete unless someone puts in time and sources article at least a little PamelaBMX 04:15, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Harumph Okay... since no one else will bother to do so, I'll use available sources[1] and work on the article some myself. I'll report back after some progress... and a note: no one else improving it is a sad reason for which to delete an improvable article. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 20:05, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a sad reason with most things, but if there's a BLP involved, it's a sensible reason. I don't have the time or the interest to reference the article, and I have no interest in answering an angry OTRS ticket from the subject. Many thanks to those who have referenced it. To quote the verifiability policy, unsourced information "should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced. This is true of all information [particularly] about living persons."". You may not agree with my methods for getting it sourced, but you can't argue that it is now sourced :-) 21:31, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

It is and it is not. You could have reverted the article to a much earlier version. That way all the unsourced stuff would have been gone faster then it takes to put the article up for AFD. Garion96 (talk) 22:04, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And too, a point worth considering, is that the individual's Saturn Award win and multiple Young Artist Award nominations were not difficult to find and source. I know it's sometimes easier for some editors to bring something to AFD and then have somebody else do the work, but it was possible that this AFD need not have even happened in the first place. However, the deed sir, she is done. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 23:06, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Significant discussion in multiple secondary sources, literally hundreds of WP:RS sources. Recipient of notable award, the Saturn Award. Multiple film roles in notable films. -- Cirt (talk) 21:44, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article now shows the Saturn Award win and multiple Young Artist Award nominations... all now sourced. Individual meets WP:ENT and WP:ANYBIO. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 22:58, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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