Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ayesha Singh (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. with socks and SPAs discounted, consensus is clear. Star Mississippi 15:17, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ayesha Singh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Issues with both WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. Article appears to be created by a fan (see [1]) and the images on the page are obvious copyright violations. There's not much sourcing and after removing some minor non-notable awards and unsourced material, it's a basic article. Singh has one significant role, the other roles appear to be minor. The most recent show is a musical game show, that's not going to meet the significant role criteria. It's still WP:TOOSOON. Ravensfire (talk) 14:32, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Actors and filmmakers, and India. Ravensfire (talk) 14:32, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Why can't a musical game show meet a significant role criteria when there are wikipedia pages of artists participating in just one reality show ?? Before the page was deleted saying that , actor appeared only in one show with a significant role but noe even in recent show her's is a vital role , so why should it be deleted ??

Those images are my work , I edited them . If I posted original pics , you could have claimed copyright but these pics are my own edits . And even I mentioned few sources which are notable..

I just request the team to keep this page and not to delete it . Kindly reconsider it Tarun K Chowdary (talk) 14:43, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Editing an image does NOT make it your own work. The copyright owner is the person that originally produced the image. And several of them you didn't edit at all - you just took credit for someone else's work. That is not acceptable on Wikipedia, copyright is taken very seriously here and on the Commons project. Ravensfire (talk) 14:47, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep : Hi , This is fanpage of the Actress Ayesha Singh . We have created the wikipedia page for the actress only after she started appearing in other show than her present show . We have mentioned notable sources only , they are verified on various social media platforms . and as for images , I uploaded them as found on internet so that copyright violation doesn't happen . Please reconsider this decision as it's very important for an actor to have a wiki page and we have written everything true only , no false information . Thank You . AyeshaSinghFC (talk) 04:04, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Striking as AyeshaSinghFC‎ is confirmed to be a sock of Tarun K Chowdary on the Commons (CU resulks are valid across projects for SUL accounts). Эlcobbola _talk 05:17, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Per nom. There's no assertion of notability plus there's lack of significant coverage, hence failing WP:ENT and WP:GNG. ManaliJain (talk) 14:44, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep : Why can't a musical game show meet a significant role criteria when there are wikipedia pages of artists participating in just one reality show ?? Before the page was deleted saying that , actor appeared only in one show with a significant role but noe even in recent show her's is a vital role , so why should it be deleted ??

Those images are my work , I edited them . If I posted original pics , you could have claimed copyright but these pics are my own edits . And even I mentioned few sources which are notable..

I just request the team to keep this page and not to delete it . Kindly reconsider it Tarun K Chowdary (talk) 14:46, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep : Isn't Eastern Eye a notable source ?? Doesn't it have a significant coverage ?? I mentioned many coverages but all has been deleted or I say edited , Why ?? I could have proved them to be notable.. Isn't IMDB notable ?? Please reconsider it . This is our 8th time , Kindly keep this page . Tarun K Chowdary (talk) 14:50, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't vote more than once. You can comment multiple times, but don't keep putting keep. Keep in mind that making the same points over and over can be counterproductive (WP:BLUDGEON). The Eastern Eye source is an interview, that's not considered independent of the subject and doesn't help for notability. It's useful as a source of information, but not for notability. Sources need to be independent of the subject and from reputable publishers. Two of the sources are online episodes - not helpful for determining notability. The last is a list of tweets selected the editor - not helpful for determining notability. Ravensfire (talk) 15:12, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please reconsider this . This Wiki page is very important for us . Tarun K Chowdary (talk) 06:01, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:52, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This page shouldn’t be deleted as the actor has had a few significant roles too. She was the lead for her film adrishya. She’s currently playing the lead in ghum hai kisikey pyaar meiin. And as for the musical show it’s a reality entertainment show which can be considered. Has had a few minor roles in the past too. Currently she’s one of the most talked and loved actor from the Indian television industry so keeping this page should be considered as the public would like that. As for the copyright for the photos. Wikipedia can use a personal photo from her Instagram account and the actor would not have any issues with her photo being used for her Wikipedia page. It’ll come under fair use. And Wikipedia can put the source under the photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.214.61.210 (talk) 04:47, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Closing admin: please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Tarun K Chowdary when weighing this IP comment. Эlcobbola _talk 13:43, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: non notable. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. A Google search couldn't find any reliable sources talking in depth about her. Bears (talk) 12:34, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: per Ravensfire's analysis of the sources above; insufficient coverage/evidence of notability. The substantial double-voting, and socking to double vote, also seems telling; there would be no need for deception/manipulation if a genuine case could be made. Эlcobbola _talk 13:43, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Only one significant role. Even I do agree with Ravensfire's research under the matter. Moreover she fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG too as she hasn't even won single notable award like ITA or Gold Awards to remain in mainspace and contains only primary and Unreliable sources.Pri2000 (talk) 16:12, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, I declined the speedy as there were assertions of notability over and above the originally-deleted version, at least enough to decline an immediate speedy deletion, but I do agree the assertions of notability aren't up to much and the article as it stands fails WP:NACTOR. Fish+Karate 13:01, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• keep Ayesha Singh is an indian television actress who became popular for an important role in Zindagi Abhi Baaki Hai Mere Ghost and lead role in Ghum Hai Kisikey Pyaar Meiin^[1]. She is eligible for getting a Wikipedia page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dashingkadee (talk • contribs) 15:49, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete for the same reasons as the previous AfD from December 2021. The addition now has been the reality show which is why I gave the creator an opportunity for argument at the speedy deletion contest discussion. The game show as mentioned in the nomination is not going to be considered. When socks and IPs are making emotional pleas in reviving and retaining this article, and there is no seasoned contributor willing to take this up, it is just bad news for the article. I do see the subject passing WP:NACTOR in the near future, however it's WP:TOOSOON for now. Jay (talk) 08:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete fails WP:NACTOR, hard to find anything on the person. Kazanstyle (talk) 13:25, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• KEEP : Ayesha Singh has already played a significant role in Zindagi Abhi Baaki Hain Mere Ghost and is the lead role in Ghum Hai Kisikey Pyaar Meiin . What more reasons are needed for forming a wiki page ?? 2406:B400:B1:B907:E5BE:9550:F58C:C9CA (talk) 06:30, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: When the actress meets actor's wikipage criteria . Why to delete it ??

She played significant role in Zindagi Abhi Baaki Hain Mere Ghost . Lead role in Ghum Hai Kisikey Pyaar MEiin . Has coverage of blue tick and verified sites . What more is needed ?? Mysticalx04 (talk) 11:15, 12 July 2022 (UTC) (Striking blocked sock vote.) —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 20:13, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Expect votes from new editors - [2]. Ravensfire (talk) 13:44, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.