Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Audofleda

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Audofleda

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Audofleda appears to be notable primarily as the wife of Theodoric the Great, and to have no notability in her own right. A search on Google Scholar brings up a handful of German articles that note she was the wife of Theodoric; searches on JSTOR and Cambridge CrossSearch reveal nothing at all. The fact that she married Theodoric is already mentioned in the article on him, and suggests this article might be a candidate for removal. Alexrexpvt (talk) 13:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination withdrawn. Request speedy close. Alexrexpvt (talk) 14:56, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep information on this kind of historical era is mostly in books and not on line. She was notable because of the alliance that was formed with the Franks. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:25, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep notable historic figure 1400 years dead. Per Graeme. Dlohcierekim 13:33, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Like Nyttend says, she was a queen during a remarkable period of time. Historically indispensable. Dlohcierekim 13:39, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Yes, I rather thought that might be the case. My concern about notability was that she did nothing in her own right except be born and get married, and appears in history mainly as a footnote because of her passive role in Theodoric's politicking; it seemed like all of this information could be (and, in fact, is) included in the Theodoric article. But if being a queen in interesting times is enough to merit an article, then I have no real objections to its staying. Alexrexpvt (talk) 13:46, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then the thing to do would be to propose a merger. The subject is clearly notable enough. The question then becomes one of independent article or mention at other article. Perhaps redirects for each daughter leading to a combined page for all. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 13:58, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Surely being a queen is sufficient for notability? It's one thing to marry a transitory political figure, but a king (and such a prominent one at that) is altogether different. Nyttend (talk) 13:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Fifth century people are notable per se just by having their names remembered fourteen centuries later. Even if their actual record is scanty, and you can sum up all that's knowable about them in a single paragraph, print encyclopedias brim with stubs of exactly this type. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.