Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashif Shaikh

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 01:21, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ashif Shaikh

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References are too weak and the article is too big without proper citations. @@@XyX _talk 22:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. @@@XyX _talk 22:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:30, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note Check the page creator name and page title both are same. Definitely written by the user who is in the article. @@@XyX _talk 22:38, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Angad.uday (talk) 19:36, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I closed this AFD discussion as a Soft Delete but later noticed the very low edit count of the two participants. So, I restored the article and am relisting this AFD, in the hope of getting editors with more experience reviewing articles to participate in this discussion and evaluation of this article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:32, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete lacking reliable sources to meet WP:BIO. Note that quite a bit of text is uncited. LibStar (talk) 01:18, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete fails WP:GNG lacks indepth references.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:49, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong keep - plenty of references in news and books; some just passing, others more in depth. Springnuts (talk) 22:30, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Hello User:Springnuts, I am the nominator of this AFD can you provided the reference of the article you said has in depth coverage or you can update the article so that we can see @@@XyX _talk 22:44, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Not a third relist, just relisting for Bijoy2020 as their recent relist didn't take effect except for leaving the note above. Consider this the second relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:57, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Here’s one from news: [[1]]

But the nomination is odd: no valid reason for deletion is given - though problems with the article are alleged. Did you try to improve/clean up the article? Springnuts (talk) 23:03, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Springnuts: Per The Logical Indian source you provided I personally think Mr. Ashif Shaikh in that article is completely different one. Correct me if I'm wrong? On Googling I found an Indian actor Aasif Sheikh I personally can't find any proper sources about this person, but you are very old and experienced editor finding to vote this article as Strong Keep I would love to takedown this nomination if you improve this article, I hope it won't take much time as you already have some good indepth references as you said earlier. @@@XyX _talk 23:18, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bijoy2020:It appears you are wrong. Did you read the reference? Line 3: "Mr Ashif Shaikh, founder of the Jan Sahas Organisation". The article, line 1: "founder-director of the community and survivor focused non-profit organisation Jan Sahas". Friendly regards,Springnuts (talk) 12:45, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well with respect it’s for you to consider alternatives to deletion (such as cleanup or tagging etc) WP:BEFORE nominating. Springnuts (talk) 04:40, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Springnuts: Not found any valid reason for tagging any tag like cleanup or something; I found less(no) WP:RS or any borderline to consider it for any other tags, I was thinking to tag WP:PROD but later considered to start an AFD. @@@XyX _talk 05:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• I have added the "Autobiography cleanup" tag - that's a start. I can't give any more time to this, but the closing editor will need to decide whether WP:TNT is justified. In my opinion it is not, but there we go. That's why we have these discussions and seek consensus. All good wishes, Springnuts (talk) 12:57, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom lacking reliable sources to meet WP:BIO.183.82.108.172 (talk) 22:28, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Sources found include: ^[1]; ^[2], .. and plenty more; Google "ashif shaikh" "jan sahas" (ie both the terms at the same time) and you get plenty of good results. Springnuts (talk) 06:51, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep For notability, consider these two ^[1][2] which discuss him significantly and not just his NGO. An op-ed in Hindu - ^[3] - also discusses his activities at some length, as does a World Economic Forum post^[4]. News search shows that a number of publications like Guardian, Reuters, France 24 and SCMP (apart from Indian papers like IE, Hindu etc) have carried his quotes; thus further supporting the notability argument. Hemantha (talk) 12:40, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further analysis required for late added sources
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz ^Humbug! 06:19, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Sources indicated by Hemantha are enough to demonstrate GNG being met. The article however needs extensive cleanup and should be tagged as such. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 10:57, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete It looks like an advertisement. Lack of indepth coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Jeni Wolf (talk) 06:24, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.