Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arthur A. Oakman

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The result was no consensus. Randykitty (talk) 20:58, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur A. Oakman

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Per source searches, this subject fails WP:BASIC notability standards. Reliable source coverage is limited to minor passing mentions, name checks and brief quotations, none of which establish notability. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:18, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:19, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:19, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:19, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep User:Lucifero4

• @Lucifero4: Why? 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 21:20, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• The article seem to be used. User:Lucifero4

• Thanks. I'm not sure what "used" means, although a high-traffic article, or articles with numerous incoming links may indicate a topic for which large numbers of people seek encyclopedic information. In this case there are several incoming links, but only as a result that Oakman is included on the Template:CofCApostles template. Regarding pageviews, before this AfD the page was averaging about 30 a month, or one a day, just barely more than what a page will receive from "Random article" traffic. I'm not giving a !vote here because I'm not sure he isn't notable in the same way that U.S. State legislators are notable (may only have local coverage, but actions demonstrably affect large numbers of people,) but although I appreciate the position I can't agree with it. However, I appreciate the explanation. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:09, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete insufficient sources to show notabable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:26, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment For RLDS a good place to look for sources is the John Whitmer Historical Association Journal, and indeed, Oakman's role in the European church leading into WWII is discussed in "National Socialists and Social Idealists: The RLDS Church in Nazi Germany, 1933-1945", R. Ben Madison, The John Whitmer Historical Association Journal Vol. 16 (1996), pp. 15-30, and less extensively (though as "a towering figure in RLDS history") in "Forgotten Outpost: The Reorganized Latter Day Saints of Poland" by the same author in the same journal, Vol. 13 (1993), pp. 31-50. He's mentioned briefly in several other articles on RLDS history, though mostly in one paragraph or a few sentences. There's also the entire biography of Oakman listed in the sources, though of course one might dismiss that as not independent. Bakazaka (talk) 01:37, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. I've added some sources and expanded/reworked the article a bit. Bakazaka (talk) 19:02, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - sourced added by Bakazaka (Madison, Parker) meet WP:GNG. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 19:17, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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