Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arshad Khan (writer/director , India)

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The result was delete. McMatter's argument discards two !keep arguments which were very weak to start with (OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and a disputed understanding of SNG v GNG), and from there, there is a consensus to delete. Daniel (talk) 03:35, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Arshad Khan (writer/director , India)

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I don't see enough to warrant an article. I did a google search for this person but the results are dominated by another sports person with the same name. It's very hard to establish any kind of credibility towards WP:GNG. Govvy (talk) 17:04, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:37, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:37, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:37, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom Padavalam🌂 ► 18:13, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I believe this article meets WP:DIRECTOR and it doesn't need to meet WP:GNG. Arshad Khan has directed several notable movies including Apne Dam Par, Jaane Jigar and Daadagiri. He has also significantly directed Pandya Store and Divya Drishti. The article however needs to be moved to a correct title, perhaps to Arshad Khan (Indian director). Best. ─ The Aafī ^{^(talk)} 18:27, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If time permits me, I'd try to cleanup and update the article tomorrow. ─ The Aafī ^{^(talk)} 18:31, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Is he any less notable than Arshad Khan (Pakistani filmmaker)? Gjs238 (talk) 21:15, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - reply Umm, I don't know how Arshad Khan is notable either, I don't see GNG established there either. Govvy (talk) 21:46, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- Gjs238, You are making a flawed argument. I do not see Arshad Khan (Pakistani filmmaker) meeting WP:DIRECTOR but the Indian Arshad Khan meets WP:DIRECTOR#3 for his several notable works, as I mentioned above. We do not need GNG being established everywhere and it won't be, and that's why we have subjective notability guidelines. If GNG was everything then we won't be having any SNG. ─ The Aafī ^{^(talk)} 06:52, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think this article just need some cleanup and editing. Mathieu Vouillamoz (talk) 12:39, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Per WP:CREATIVE - multiple notable films as director and writer in his credit. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 16:30, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment on SNG & GNG - what I know is that SNG doesn't replace or override GNG (except for academics, politicians maybe). But otherwise, it is presumed that if SNG is being met, GNG would be met. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 16:32, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete SNG are guides to help us determine when looking at a subject on what to look for to help us establish notability. If you scroll up and read the header Additional Criteria in WP:CREATIVE you will see that these SNGs aren't a conclusive criteria. We require reliable sources to back up these assertions. The single source used in the article is equivalent to an IMDB and a Google search and has absolutely no sway towards notability. Even with the source in the article which is basically a search for new stories about the subject it actually has nothing about them. My searches come up with nothing additional, but this would not include any older news stories (pre-internet) or in languages other then English. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 16:01, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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