Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arcavias (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. None of the "keep" !votes is policy based. Randykitty (talk) 17:08, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Arcavias

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Article about a software product that was deleted at AFD two years ago, and subsequently speedied twice as G11. I am bringing it to AFD again rather than tag it with G4 given the elapsed time, but it seems the notability is still not there. The principal claim seems to be being named "one of the best open source shop systems in 2013" where the source is another website of unknown reliability and the subject is #4 among 30 other similar products. All coverage i can find in Google (including Google.de) are press releases and minor mentions about new versions. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 20:56, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:22, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Arcavias is well known and notable within the (european) TYPO3 community, mainly by speeches and presentations on official TYPO3 conferences and camps in Germany, Romania, Spain and other countries. Two of them are referenced in the article --Nsendetzky (talk) 09:04, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep because I like to follow the argument of Nsendetzky. Not everything can get his relevance on the world wide web. Arcavias is relevant for a lot of Typo3 developers creating online shops and so on. Kekstod (talk) 09:11, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I can confirm that. Arcavias has a decent notability in the TYPO3 community. It's known through speakers on various TYPO3 events. I've attended one today in the Netherlands where Arcavias was a topic. --Becom2k (talk) 19:29, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above is the only edit from a new editor. Wonder why they made their first edit here? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:58, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This Open Source project is still young. It's mainly empowered by the German community and that's why the provided references are mainly in German language available. Therefore English (or non German) speaking references can't be brought up yet. But this will certainly change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huisku (talk • contribs) 07:42, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above is the only edit from a new editor. Wonder why they made their first edit here? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:58, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I am new here. - And yes this is/was my first action as registered member. - And I wounder if this is the nice and proper way to welcome and motivate new members/beginners within Wikipedia. --Huisku (talk) 17:21, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

and you chose this page out of 4,000,000 plus for your first editing foray... what a remarkable coincidence!

1. Yes. 2. No. Arcavias was the reason (icing on the cake) to create the account. Otherwise I would have continued to participate sporadically and anonymously. I hope your attacks and offending way of communication will stop.--Huisku (talk) 18:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete promotional and non-notable, and their seems to be some bad faith here with sock or meat puppets casting votes too Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:03, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It were people like you who stopped me from contributing actively to the English Wikipedia. If everyone interested only in special topics is a puppet for you, please convince Wikipedia management to shut down registration and allow new editors by personal invitation only. That would save us all a lot of anger! Nsendetzky (talk) 14:51, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I've accused you of anything, you have a decent contribution history dating back some way. It's the two new accounts with this as their only edits that I have grave doubts about. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 17:09, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Having said that, you should have declared a Conflict of Interest, since non-admins won't be aware that you created this article first time around Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:48, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Only seeing enough evidence to conclude that this software exists, not seeing anywhere close to the quantity of independent coverage from reliable sources needed to establish notability. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 00:03, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, does it exist? Yes, it does, but I don't see the sort of coverage by third party sources that would be needed for it to meet WP:N. And the sudden appearance of a whole bunch of editors registering just to take part in this discussion does have a somewhat unpleasant odour about it. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 12:48, 17 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

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