Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angel of Death (novel)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 00:00, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Angel of Death (novel)

The book meets none of the criteria set forth in WP:NB. It has won no awards, was not made into a movie, it isn't taught, and the author, Jack Higgins, can not be said to be so historically significant that his works are automatically notable. As for the first possible criterion, I can not find a single non-trivial mention of the book; all I see are sites that sell or swap used books or provide other non-significant mention. Drmies (talk) 23:12, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I suspect people will say it is notable because it's authored by a notable author. I would simply state that if it doesn't deserve an article on its own it should be merged. Either way, deletion doesn't seem to be the way to go. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:21, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I propose that Midnight Runner, Thunderpoint, The Killing Ground (novel), and Rough Justice (novel) be included in this deletion discussion. All of these are very short articles with zero sources; the relevant info about these books is covered in the main article about this series, Sean Dillon (Jack Higgins character), and none of these books are independently notable. Delete them. Graymornings_(talk) 01:40, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Graymornings; none of these articles are worth keeping, IMO. Also, there simply isn't anything to merge besides a paragraph with plot--these are dime novels. Therefore:

I am also nominating the following related pages because none of them are notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia (they have not received significant or any coverage, have won no awards, have not been turned into movies, etc.:

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 05:18, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - These are certainly not "Dime novels" very notable author. Not his best work but of note regardless. Deserve to built up not knocked down. There are far more worthless articles here for your attentions then these. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 09:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure you put a lot of work into the articles, but Sean Dillon (Jack Higgins character) already covers the neccessary info. The rest seems to be plot summaries with original analysis ("...a really cool character") and "famous quotes" from Dillon. We could possibly transplant parts of the plot summaries into the main Sean Dillon article to contribute to the character's bio, but there's not much in the novels that makes them stand out independent of the series. Graymornings_(talk) 10:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, Here are some reliable sources that prove that the novel Angel of Death has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works that allow it to pass WP:BK. The subject is notable the article should be kept, cleaned up and expanded. As it states in WP:DEL, If the page can be improved, this should be solved through regular editing, rather than deletion., this is a perfect example, sources exists that allow the articles to be improved, they should be kept and the issues resolved through normal editing.
- Guttman, Robert J. "Best sellers." Europe (Apr. 1995): 26. Abstract: Reviews the book `Angel of Death' by Jack Higgins.
- Pendleton, Elsa. "Book reviews: Fiction." Library Journal 120.4 (Mar. 1995): 102. Abstract: Reviews the novel `Angel of Death,' by Jack Higgins.
- Steinberg, Sybil S. "Forecasts: Fiction." Publishers Weekly 242.2 (09 Jan. 1995): 55. Abstract: Reviews the book `Angel of Death,' by Jack Higgins.
- Lukowsky, Wes. "Adult fiction." Booklist 91.10 (15 Jan. 1995): 869. Abstract: Reviews the book `Angel of Death,' by Jack Higgins.
Here are some reliable sources for Midnight Runner that allow it to pass WP:BK
- "MIDNIGHT RUNNER (Book)." Kirkus Reviews 70.2 (15 Jan. 2002): 65. Abstract: Reviews the book 'Midnight Runner,' by Jack Higgins.
- Gannon, Sean. "Midnight Runner (Book)." People 57.16 (29 Apr. 2002): 47. Abstract: Reviews the book 'Midnight Runner,' by Jack Higgins.
- Zaleski, Jeff. "MIDNIGHT RUNNER (Book)." Publishers Weekly 249.6 (11 Feb. 2002): 162. Abstract: Reviews the book 'Midnight Runner,' by Jack Higgins.
- Harris, Karen. "Midnight Runner (Book)." Booklist 99.5 (Nov. 2002): 515. Abstract: Reviews the audiobook 'Midnight Runner,' by Jack Higgins and read by Patrick MacNee.

I can provide similar sources for the other novels. Each of them have multiple reliable source reviews that meet the requirements of WP:BK.--Captain-tucker (talk) 14:53, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.