Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angel Island (Sonic the Hedgehog)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Articles have been transwikied by Izno. Fram (talk) 10:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Angel Island (Sonic the Hedgehog)

This location, along with the following locations all nominated under this AFD, all fail WP:N and WP:FICT. No amount of repair would be able to show notability for any of the articles listed, and not one of them is exempt from this problem. Red Phoenix ^{flame of life...}^{protector of all...} 04:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because they share the same problem, are of the same type of article, and should be considered along with the article:

Delete all as all fail to meet the general notability guideline. None of them have any notability, because none of them are covered in reliable sources that are independent of Sonic the Hedgehog / Sega / etc. Randomran (talk) 04:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all: These articles are minor and shouldn't be articles. If there's any info that can salvaged I encourage for it to be merged.Fairfieldfencer FFF 08:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all - Per WP:NOT#PLOT. Also, on the blanket nomination, I trust Red Phoenix's judgement here, as he is acquainted with the subject, that all articles nominated here fit the profile. User:Krator (t c) 08:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Transwiki-ing may be a good move if these aren't covered elsewhere in the Wikia world. I'd support a merge if some sources can be found to sustain a merged article, but if not, then a deletion is in order. -- Sabre (talk) 09:15, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/transwiki. All of these articles fall outside the scope of WP and are surely better off at a different wiki dealing with specific video game interests. The Dork Knight 09:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki - There's some good in-universe stuff another gaming wiki might want, offload it there and then be done with it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 11:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - For everyone asking for a transwiki, I have created a guide here for the major differences between the aforementioned Wikipedia articles and the articles at http://sonic.wikia.com , a Sonic wiki. Should someone be willing to be bold and move it, here are the differences between each corresponding article:

- Angel Island - missing the last paragraph and all references from the Wikipedia article.
- Earth - missing a substantial amount of content on Wikia.
- Hidden Palace Zone - exacty the same as Wikipedia.
- Knothole - also missing a substantial amount of content on Wikia.
- Minor Locations - exactly the same as Wikipedia.
- Mobius - written differently at the Archie comic section, but otherwise the same as Wikipedia.
- Mobotropolis - actually, the Wikia is more expanded than the Wikipedia article.
- Nameless Zone - missing a substantial amount of content on Wikia.
- Shanazar - missing some content on Wikia.
- Special Stage - missing a paragraph about Sonic Rush Adventure and the last two paragraphs on Wikipedia, but contains one more image on Wikia.
- Special Zone (Sonic the Comic) - exactly the same as Wikipedia.
- The Void - very similar, but the Wikipedia article has just a little more and is worded differently.

Hope this helps everyone. Red Phoenix ^{flame of life...}^{protector of all...} 13:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/transwiki per above. Excessive detail and undue weight for a WP article. Any significant locations can be briefly mentioned in a single sentence (or within a sentence) in their respective game/cartoon articles. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 16:04, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all -- these are outside of the scope of what Wikipedia is aiming to do. Send it to a game guide wiki. coccyx bloccyx_(toccyx) 17:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all - All of them lack any real world context outside of the series. They are minor elements, so they should be treated as such. TTN (talk) 17:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki all except weak keep Special Stage (Sonic the Hedgehog) - this one may stand on its own pending additional sources. AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 18:19, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game related deletions. MrKIA11 (talk) 18:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strong delete all Seeing as they're all covered almost word for word, there's zero reason they need to be here as seperate articles. treelo _talk 19:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm not into video games, so I don't have an opinion on these articles. Just one question: could they be merged into a List of Places in Sonic the Hedgehog or something like that? Nyttend (talk) 22:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think so. Most of this content fails notability guidelines, and I'm pretty sure a list of these places would also fail the same guidelines. Red Phoenix ^{flame of life...}^{protector of all...} 22:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. They are lacking any real world information. Wikipedia is not a games' magazine. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge them all as appropriate. I notice that combination articles on similar topics were also nominated--but that is a more reasonable way of doing things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG, 02:37, 29 May 2008
Merge and clean everything up. Maybe then we'll see less of Red Phoenix's sock-puppets and more constructive work going on around here. 169.237.39.141 (talk) 03:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I happen to take offense to that sockpuppet comment, since you're accusing me of something I wouldn't even consider. There's a difference between where constructive work can be done and what is just fancruft. This is fancruft. Red Phoenix ^{flame of life...}^{protector of all...} 03:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Transwiki. To wikia. --SkyWalker (talk) 03:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect Knothole to Wood#Knots, Delete everything else per WP:V, and subsequently, WP:N and WP:RS. I've salvaged the articles which basically had no content on sonic.wikia, with appropriate links to the page histories of the possibly soon-to-be-deleted articles here. My thanks to Red Phoenix for the summary of what sonic.wikia needed and what it didn't. --Izno (talk) 19:14, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/Redirect to Sonic the Hedgehog. Just have a "list of locations" perhaps. --Sin Harvest (talk) 08:17, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment old printed sources certainly exist for Hidden Palace Zone and Special Stage (Sonic the Hedgehog), so I'd advise caution there. Miremare 18:32, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you be specific? Bridies (talk) 18:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.