Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alireza Najafzadeh

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. G5, but for avoidance of further issues, this also would have been eligible to be deleted on notability guidelines so sockpuppetry is not the sole issue. Star Mississippi 16:17, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alireza Najafzadeh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Half of the sources are either unreliable or search results on news websites. The other half of those sources are about films or TV series of which this person is one of the staff members (something like "X series by A. Najafzadeh will be released soon"). Looking for sources results in same sources provided in the articles and i guess there is no more sources about this person and/or his works. There is not enough coverage to establish WP:GNG even for films and TV series. Jeeputer (talk) 03:14, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Jeeputer (talk) 03:14, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:28, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep The person whose name has been mentioned 132 times in ISNA is famous.Mass media coverage; Salam Cinema, Soureh Cinema, Mehr News Agency and many more.--{{user|CeSoe}} ^talk 15:43, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Profile at Salam Cinema or Soureh does not establish notability. results on Mehr News are about a TV series named "Khoshnaam", not the director. routine news like "actor X joined Y series" also do not establish notability of the director. Jeeputer (talk) 21:20, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  jamejamonline and honarmrooz and hamshahrionline mehrnews interview tasnimnews iribnews shahraranews Isn't his name mentioned as a director in the sources I mentioned? Are their interviews available in the links? {{user|CeSoe}} ^talk 03:45, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:57, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• KeepBased on WP:Artist: If a person is a creator or has an important collaboration to create an important and well-known work or group work, he is famous. He has made and acted in many films. Like Paytakht TV series, etc., so this person is famous.--2A01:5EC0:B008:F2E8:EC09:277:CB37:A2FD (talk) 01:16, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: as neither keep !vote is based in policy
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 01:46, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment The sources don't seem notable, the only hit I get in GBooks is about a Christian that was tortured with the same name as this fellow. Leaning delete. Oaktree b (talk) 02:18, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment It has extensive news coverage in Iranian news agencies and has 132 references in ISNA and Tasnim alone.--{{user|CeSoe}} ^talk 20:35, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    These 132 search results just mention his name as one of the staff members. He does not even have an important collaboration in any TV series or films. Jeeputer (talk) 21:17, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    He is a film director. I want to mention the sources. sourehcinema The official website of Iranian cinema and imdb and From Garlic to Onion with the director of "Khoshnam" / Veteran actors are waiting for your call! and Complaints of radio miscalculation and a few outspoken questions and mehrnews In all the sources, his name is mentioned as a director. How do you say he did not play a role? Do you have a personal problem with them that violates the view of neutrality? I mentioned the sources Authentic sources of news references. I hope you are convinced. Thanks. --{{user|CeSoe}} ^talk 03:46, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @CeSoe: Please avoid personal attacks. i don't even know this person and if i had a personal problem, i would not consider does problems when commenting on this AfD. as i said above, Soureh Cinema, IMDb and search results which just mention a name, can not be used to establish notability. List of staff of a film is not considered as "significant coverage". you have to provide sources covering the director himself, not his works alone and mentions of his name. like sources covering his style of filmmaking or publishing details of his personal life etc. Jeeputer (talk) 14:50, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    @CeSoe Unfortunately none of those sources qualify for WP:GNG. If you want this article to stay up, kindly add sources like news sources that are reliable. I wish you only success. ~~~ PaulPachad (talk) 19:39, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    I answered your question below, thanks {{user|CeSoe}} ^talk 20:26, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I agree with @Jeeputer that this article should be deleted per WP:G5. Also none of the sources listed seem reliable, and a google news search produces no results. In my opinion this does not pass WP:GNG . I also suspect that the people voting keep have a connection to the author or the subject. PaulPachad (talk) 19:35, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Hi, all the links I provided are for news websites that are also verified.Tasnim News Agency(1)-Iranian Students News Agency (2). Are these sources not verifiable? {{user|CeSoe}} ^talk 20:25, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Hi my friend, I'm afraid having a wikipedia article does not make it reliable. The National Enquirer is famously not a reliable source and it has a wikipedia page National Enquirer. There is a whole list here of blacklisted news outlets and they each have wikipedia pages. Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources Try to use a source from this green list to support your article. All the best! PaulPachad (talk) 22:56, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Hello my friend, here (Wikipedia:News sources/Asia#Iran) you can see the list of news websites that are Iranian and trusted, of which I have provided links to all of them. If necessary, I will put new links again؟ {{user|CeSoe}} ^talk 00:08, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  There is news about him in all these reliable websites, not one or two, but dozens and hundreds of news

  1. MehrNews

  2. ILNA

  3. ISNA

  4. IRNA

  5. IRIB News. {{user|CeSoe}} ^talk 00:16, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  As i mentioned in the Afd for the corresponding Persian article, the connection between the creator (who created the article in at least 4 wikis) and the subject is kind of obvious to me. CeSoe is also blocked as a sock in fawiki (just noticed). Anyways, these are not related to this AfD and i am not familiar with the process of reporting a sock to checkusers on this wiki (it is different in my home wiki). So, i have nothing more to say in this discussion. Jeeputer (talk) 20:27, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  I was mistakenly blocked in the Persian wiki. If I am a sock, has my main account been identified? This is a slander. You have blocked me in the Persian wiki without inspection. I have no problem with the inspection. Wiki Farsi is a place for appreciation of its administrators who block the user without checking, without checking his account and even close the discussion page and do not allow the request to be opened. If I was a sock, my account should have been checked, which it was not. I ask you, Persian manager, to check me. {{user|CeSoe}} ^talk 22:41, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Without comment to merits, the process here is at SockPuppet Investigation. Let me know if you need more information. Happy to provide Star Mississippi 22:55, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Hello, can I ask you to check my account to find out that I am innocent and I do not have a replacement account؟ {{user|CeSoe}} ^talk 00:00, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  @Star Mississippi: Thank you. Looks like the account is already blocked.

  This article should be deleted per WP:G5. Jeeputer (talk) 14:54, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.