Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AFC Mansfield

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Notability guidelines set down by a WikiPrjoect do not trump our wider guidelines and policies, hence I have not taken these comments into account; on that basis there is consensus that GNG is not met (yet). Black Kite (talk) 09:59, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

AFC Mansfield

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No indication that this sporting club is notable, cant find ANY reliable sources that cover the club (other than results) in any detail. LGA _talk^edits 06:30, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unable to find any sources like the nom, google news search doesn't pull anything up other than their own news Dusti^{*Let's talk!*} 07:04, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 12:17, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 12:17, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:12, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 08:49, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - ignoring their own website as a source there are some references to be found on their local papers website here, here and here. I'm undecided as to their overall notiblity but there are reliable sources. => Spudgfsh (Text Me!) 18:25, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This article meets the notability criteria set down by the Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/English non-league task force due to the club participating in the FA Vase.(Rillington (talk) 09:02, 31 July 2013 (UTC))[reply]
Keep This article will meet the notability criteria set down by the Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/English non-league task force as the club will be participating in the FA Vase.Babylon77 (talk) 22:11, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment meeting a WikiProject guideline is not sufficient (see WP:CONLIMITED) to override the requirement of WP:GNG ; the club needs coverage in detail in reliable sources, the two links that are working above, are not sufficient coverage, all that it confirms is that they exist and that they are playing football, heck my local pub team has more coverage than that and is not notable. LGA _talk^edits 22:22, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment This is a newly created article and there is scope for additional content to be added, including obtaining material sourced from other wbsites, and to answer your concerns I have now added two references from a site which is NOT the club's official website and as of now, there are three references from two websites independent of the club's official website. This should satisfy any concern about lack of independent sources. I created this article because AFC Mansfield now fits a notability criteria established a long time ago by the Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/English non-league task force. Articles have to begin somewhere and if everyone shouted delete because the first few drafts of any article only used one or two sources then a significant number of good articles would not be with us today. I hope that now I have added more references from other websites to this article, which addresses your principle reason for wanting this article deleted, that you will now withdraw your request for this article to be deleted and vote for this article to be kept.(Rillington (talk) 02:36, 1 August 2013 (UTC))[reply]
Delete - Seems like a case of WP:TOOSOON. Should wait until the club have actually compeeted in the Vase, we wouldn't accept an article on a player who was about to play in a FPL. Fenix down (talk) 14:13, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Maybe but the FA Vase starts in a few weeks so your argument for this article's deletion will be not applicable by this time next month. Therefore it seems rather silly deleting an article only for it to be restored in a few weeks time.(Rillington (talk) 15:01, 2 August 2013 (UTC))[reply]
  - Comment - Not really, if they get knocked out in the first round then their only claim to notability by the arguments presented here will be 90 mins in the Vase. I am not sure how that would trump GNG. Fenix down (talk) 15:32, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - Comment If that happens then sobeit but they will still have participated in that competition and by participating in the FA Vase the club is considered to be notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia - see Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Notability - and this notability criteria was established in 2009.(Rillington (talk) 20:26, 4 August 2013 (UTC))[reply]
Comment It does seem as though there is a serious determination to get my article deleted. The original two arguments for deletion - that the club is not notable and a lack of independent sources - have both been addressed but despite that yet another argument for deletion has suddenly been produced, which leads me to draw this conclusion. Surely it would be more productive to try to help improve the article rather than trying to find any possible reason to get this article deleted?(Rillington (talk) 15:18, 2 August 2013 (UTC))[reply]
Keep Having read the debate I'll come off the fence and say keep. => Spudgfsh (Text Me!) 20:28, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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