Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021 Minor League Cricket season squads

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The result was redirect to 2021 Minor League Cricket season#Squads. Where it is now covered. Sandstein 21:28, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2021 Minor League Cricket season squads

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Violates WP:NOTSTATS, as we don't need squad lists for every team in this minor tournament. For cricket articles, we tend to only have separate squad list articles for ICC international events (ICC World Cup, ICC Men's T20 World Cup and women's equivalents). No evidence this list meets WP:NLIST or WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:45, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. The tournament doesn't even have T20 status. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 11:08, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lugnuts: You say this tournament doesn't have T20 status. How is that true? Every single source states this tournament as a "T20 tournament". For example, here, here, and here. Perhaps even here, here, or here? In fact, USA Cricket itself actualizes the tournament as a "T20 league", as shown here. Any proof against the fact that it does in fact have T20 status? There are no statements from ICC Cricket to prove otherwise. --WellThisIs TheReaper ^Grim 00:21, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's "T20" in name only, but the matches are certainly not Twenty20 in status. See this for more. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:37, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ Weak keep WP:NOTSTATS, you say? It states that in the case of lengthy numbers of statistics that the statistics should be split into another article. This is the exact definition of that. The squads section in 2021 Minor League Cricket season in itself was incredibly lengthy and at times, hard to understand, as seen in this diff. This is why I created the article in the first place. I should also think this follows WP:LSC, WP:UCS, and goes with WP:NOT in these circumstances. --WellThisIs TheReaper ^Grim 00:21, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need complete squad lists for a minor tournament like this, especially when most of the people aren't notable. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:40, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Joseph2302: So, current squads listed in team articles such as this here should suffice? --WellThisIs TheReaper ^Grim 16:02, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom. Fade258 (talk) 08:58, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per nom, violates WP:NOTSTATS, plus players in this tournament aren't notable for playing in this tournament, so a list of players from this tournament isn't necessary. A table of leading run scorers/wicket takers from the tournament on the main page should suffice, but a list like this for a non-notable tournament without official T20 status. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 08:59, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and Lugnuts. The Official Cricket list shows that the competition is minor without official status. I believe local leagues in Britain play T20 tournaments but there's no way they can be considered official – or notable. The article also fails NOTSTATS. I agree with Rugbyfan22 that there should be a summary of the tournament in the league's article but anything beyond that is excessive. NGS ^{Shakin' All Over} 09:21, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - even if the tournament did have top-level T20 status, I'm unconvinced that article such as this about domestic tournaments are necessary at all (for example, all (literally all) of the details at 2019 Pakistan Super League squads are repeated at articles such as Lahore Qalandars in 2019 and there are squad lists - without the details - at 2019 Pakistan Super League. I honestly don't understand why we need this repetition - beyond the desire to create yet more list articles of dubious value; I'm not even sure we need them for international tournaments such as World Cups). If the team's season is notable and sources can be found, write articles about them. I doubt that's the case here if I'm honest. If for some reason the article is kept, the flags, colours, table width issues and redundant key items will all need dealing with. Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:41, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Squad lists should only appear on team or main tournament articles, with the exception of the World Cup (ODI/T20) and the Champions Trophy. StickyWicket (talk) 16:28, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with 2021 Minor League Cricket season: Any relevant details can be added to the page. Perhaps in collapsed form. Gusfriend (talk) 08:52, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gusfriend, already done. --WellThisIs TheReaper ^Grim 01:18, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Wow. Someone did a lot of work here, and it appears this has now been merged into 2021 Minor League Cricket season#Squads. I'm taken aback by the quality and detail of the material. Although it is merely symbolic at this point, I recommend Merge' in recognition of the fait accompli. Jacona (talk) 12:45, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Jacona. Merging has already been done, unless you are talking about merging the exact squad lists from the article into here. --WellThisIs TheReaper ^Grim 14:42, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My intent is merely to thank and shout out those who have done the work! I think it's very good. Jacona (talk) 19:56, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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