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Hey wait a moment - I have a pack of Uncle Poo Blunts in my collection!

They say "mean green honey dipped" on them.

Um, I think you're another industry insider. Do you work with that other guy with the Haarlem and Tobacones products?

Please don't modify the blunt page again - I mean, you're like a BRAND aren't you?

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Why do all these brand guys keep coming into this site to promo their stuff :(

--Mrtobacco 21:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In my collection I have a pack of UNCLE POO brand blunts. They look the same as the Wild Willy's in my year 2000 stuff.

I think the guy who just modifyed the page from Reverend G's last version to this new one is another industry manufacturer. Maybe he's the same guy as the Haarlem Blunts & Tobacones guy?

Here is an archive shot of the Uncle Poo blunts I found on the net:

http://www.420auction.com/auctions/apooblunt.html

I think maybe we should revert the page back to Reverend G's last version. Any thoughts?

BTW - why are so many brand guys like messing with Wiki? The same thing keeps happening on various Rolling paper pages. They get really mad at me for changing the pages back :)

--Mrtobacco 21:11, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have offered mrtobacco a fair discussion on this issue + I have been playing with open cards, telling him about my relations to companies manufacturing european blunt brands.

I am selling blunts in Europe - each brand from hbi ( juicy ) products via royals and blunt wrap platinums - to european brands like Haarlem Blunts or Tobacones. As I am european I know people from european companies better then those from american companies. Which is a natural thing i.m.o.

Anyway, knowing the market very well I realized that information was incomplete when I was looking after blunts in wikipedia. So I wrote other brand names I knew into these articles - if I remember right those brands were Haarlem Blunts ( german ), Tobacones ( dutch ) and Exotic Blunts ( from Phillipines ).

After a while I realized that my entries had been removed - all by mrtobacco. when checking his track record (history, whatever)I found out that already earlier he had been accused of protecting certain procucts.

I will not pretend what I can't prove - so I wrote him ( mrtobacco ) " feel free to remove my re-entries if they are considered advertisements - but please remove other brands as well then. "

all mrtobacco did, was to refer to my poor english, well its obviously not my mother language but it is as good as my dutch, french, spanish, italien or german language skills." So if you prefer one of those - feel free to adress me, sir ;-)"

mrtobacco even told me to send him samples of my products. My products ? ;-) .... he is a smart man!

So mrtobacco - I have many products, unfortunately none of those are my own ;-) - I am buying and selling.

What you have been trying to tell me is " if mrtobacco doesnt know a product it is nonexistent - so the product has to come to HIM to prove its existense ???? "

Anyway. I will no longer write brandnames into wikipedia - no advertisement, that sounds right to me.

but I will pay attention to the work of mrtobacco and others that keep trying to adjust truth.

truth is not adjustable.

and for mrtobacco - if you find poor english in my article, you can keep it ;-)

ps - according to my information uncle poo is a dead brand and therefore a nice nickname.I opened my account only for you mrT.

UNCLE POO- YOU FORGOT TO SIGN THIS RANT ABOVE!!

Hey wait a moment - I think you don't know how to view or use WIKI. I DIDN'T REMOVE ANY BRANDS FROM THE BLUNT PAGE!! THAT WAS OTHER USERS - HAVE A LOOK AT THE HISTORY AND YOU'LL SEE - geez dude, why are you blaming me for something that other posters did? I only posted a question asking if that Harlem Blunt was a real product or just a clothing line because all we could find from your link was a clothing line!

I keep posting that you shouldn't write about brands that you own. All of the images you posted were taken from "herbsmoke.com" which I hope that you own - otherwise it's a non-fair use and Wiki staff will delete all of your images of the blunts and such. They're all watermarked www.herbsmoke.com which is how I and everyone can see that you took them from there. Are you someone from herbsmoke.com? Listen all I wanted was to find out what those products were and if they really even were products. Plus I have to protect these pages from industry manufacturers such as yourself (yeah I know you are now saying you aren't one but you said you were earlier). Wiki is NOT A PLACE FOR ADVERTISING. IT'S ONLY A PLACE TO SHARE INFORMATION AND IF YOU WORK FOR HARLEM BLUNTS OR TOBACONES you should not post on these pages. Post on your websites instead sir :) --Mrtobacco 13:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

quote mrt. I DIDN'T REMOVE ANY BRANDS FROM THE BLUNT PAGE!! THAT WAS OTHER USERS - HAVE A LOOK AT THE HISTORY AND YOU'LL SEE my entries from last year >>Revision as of 23:28, 4 June 2006 by Mrtobacco there for example you removed Haarlem Blunts - maybe you don't remember -> therefore I remind you. Actually you still don't konw how to look at the pages - your links to your websites haarlemblunts.com and cones.nl was removed by ReverendG - not me!. Please learn how to use Wiki!!! --Mrtobacco 15:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC) >> that is adjusting truth, sir >> as you are able to read I was talking about the FIRST removal - well documented above. >> reverend G. removed the latest links after you wrote some blabla about a clothing company. >> but you knew the truth - because I wrote you that in europe manufacturers are not allowed to do tobacco advertisement. >> not even in the internet >> therefore for example on the hompage of tobacones you will find ALL their products except tobacones. Uncle poo 15:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

quote mrt. All of the images you posted were taken from "herbsmoke.com" which I hope that you own >> I have NEVER posted pictures. why are pretending such stuff. plz, stick with the truth. It seems you posted them under another user name. Maybe that user name is not related to you, but it really looked like it was Uncle Poo. --Mrtobacco 15:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

quote mrt. Listen all I wanted was to find out what those products were and if they really even were products. >> try google as recommended before. But YOU PUT IN A LINK TO A CLOTHING LINE - NOT A PRODUCT! Why would we have a link to a clothing line on the Blunt page? It just doesn't make sense Uncle Poo! --Mrtobacco 15:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC) >> explained before. so you know what? I acknowledge that those links don't carry relevant information. but again in your Revision as of 23:28, 4 June 2006 by Mrtobacco - you have been removing Haarlem Blunts from the text.[reply]

so please tell me why ? why is there no tobacones, exotic blunts, haarlem blunts, miami blunts,double blunts etc. !!!! even Blunt Wrap has been removed a while ago. Look at the facts ! Uncle poo 15:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

quote mrt. ... manufacturers such as yourself (yeah I know you are now saying you aren't one but you said you were earlier). >> I told you that I have private and business relations to those people . my cards have always been on the desk. Yes, and by admitting that you are in the industry you are admitting that you're biased towards those products. That's why you should not be allowed to post text or links on Wiki. --Mrtobacco 15:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC) >> thats what happens to somebody who puts his cards on the desk. >> you start twisting words and you keep adjusting truth. >> do you mind if I call you mr._ self_proclaimed_innocence ? Uncle poo 15:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

quote mrt. Wiki is NOT A PLACE FOR ADVERTISING. >> now we are talking. 100% agreed. Good, then stop posting your ads here! --Mrtobacco 15:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC) >> I posted links once. And accepted removal. But I will not accept one sided protection of certain brands and business interest.Uncle poo 15:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lets stop arguments - no advertisements - and everybody is happy.

I am sure you have been doing a lot of good work here on WIKI .... I will never reach that status.

So long ... and have a good time.

Uncle poo 14:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. Because I am semi-retired I have time to keep talking to you about this and really would like to do so.

Please don't "sign off and say goodbye" as you have posted above. Wiki needs more writers always. But, if you work for those blunt companies you should not post in the blunt category.

I know it made you mad that your links to your companies were removed. But what we did was to remove all of the links so you shouldn't feel bad about it.

I guess if I was in your shoes, and I worked for or was related to some obscure brands in Europe, I would be mad that bigger companies had more mention on these pages. However they probably sell 10 or 100 times more then you do, and we buy and use their products. That's why we write about them and post information about them. Not because we are like you (related to them). You need to have a bit of a reality check. If nobody on Wiki has ever heard of your brand Haarlem Blunts, do you think it's appropriate that we post a link on the Blunts page to them? Especially when that link goes to a clothing site?

Be realistic and stop being so mad and accusatory. Instead I suggest you write about other topics if you have time. Maybe some stuff relating to where you live (just search for your town name in the search box) or anything else where you can provide unbiased information :_)

--Mrtobacco 20:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ps. wanna trade for some Haarlem Blunts? I have quite a collection going and would honestly like 1 of each flavor for my collection. I can trade you lots of duplicates that I have or send you money if you insist? Nobody I saw online will ship to Oregon USA without HUGE charges.

hi my friend ;-)

it's good to see that our discussion has become more laid back now. I think it is no longer important to talk about who_is_who and who_did_what.

I think we have found a nice bottom line, which is: no ads.

That still sounds good to me ;-)

As I am very busy I think everything will stay the way it is. I am a passionate wiki user that has very little time to contribute himself regularily. As I am related to blunt business I will no longer post on this issue - well, unless there is some ads to be found ;-)

If I think there is information to be shared I will forward it to you, alright ?

best regards Uncle poo 12:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot really help you with the Haarlem Blunts. I don't know whether they are sold in the US - but when I meet somebody from your country on a business fair who actually has this product, I will forward the contact to you. Uncle poo 13:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please - won't you consider sending or selling them to me yourself? I can pay you via credit card or if you want I can sent you a postal money order. Can you check with other sellers and see if one is willing to ship to USA for a reasonable price :) --Mrtobacco 13:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

well you really want to have them, right. ok - I will send you a few samples from my stock, the classic stuff is only 4 flavors - but during the next days I am expecting a delivery from the latest edition - just leave me a shipping adress somewhere, then I will send you a nice assortment that might fit nicely into your collection / I have samples of quite a few brands - that I don't need as I am not collecting this stuff

sorry for my poor english

-)

Uncle poo 16:04, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(removed personal information - better to be safe then sorry for both of us, I will email you directly)