User talk:Tommy2010/Archive 3

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You don't have to blank the page to archive it. I could just take away most of the things you are done with, and perhaps add more to the archive later if you want. R U Sure? 2D Backfire Master ^{oh yeah} 20:03, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

You can archive it now, convos are done here. Time for a clean page! Thanks, Tommy2010 23:04, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Good? I think that turned out very well, myself. Happy to be of help anytime. 2D Backfire Master ^{oh yeah} 11:29, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you :D Tommy2010 11:33, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) P.S. How to archive: Simply create a link underneath the latest archive's link in the archive box. The new link should read [[/Archive 3|May 2010 - month of archiving]], etc. Then, cut everything that you want to put away. Paste into the new archive. To top it off, put the template {{archive}} on the top and bottom. That's really all there is to it. 2D Backfire Master ^{oh yeah} 11:35, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah I see. Okay, thanks! Tommy2010 11:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey if you're talking about me removing the categories on user pages, they were accidental and caused by my recent addition of twinkle. I have undid them myself. If you are talking about something else then please do explain--JDDJS (talk) 23:49, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

That's fine, just be careful. Tommy2010 23:50, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

You beat me on the Delete key page 3 times!!!! Come on, I want to join the fun too, you know ;) The Blade of the Northern Lights (talk) 02:21, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

aww I'm sorry. Get rollback and then download Huggle :) Tommy2010 02:22, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

haha! no problem! huggle has already crashed twice on me just tonight. Thanks, and your doing a awesome job too. cya Traxs7 (Talk) 03:01, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Almost forgot to say thanks for the revert on my talk page! Elockid ^(Talk) 04:20, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

NP buddy. Great work yourself against that little ip vandal last night Tommy2010 10:21, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Not quite sure which is the "unvandalized" version, but the 18April one seems more likely than the changes made today by 217.42.95.50 as part of a vandalism spree. DMacks (talk) 17:16, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea either... Tommy2010 17:18, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Something you might want to look at and address with the IP. I notice your talkpage is protected, so the IP may not have been able to contact you, and thus set out the issue on the Huggle page. Best, Orphan Wiki 20:22, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert on my usertalk! --N419BH (talk) 22:14, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Ya man :) Tommy2010 22:14, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for reverting you! Apparently, you clicked the revert button at the same time that I did, and I reverted you. :) Hi878 (talk) 03:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

It's okay, I'm a speed demon, my flaw... sometimes. Tommy2010 03:38, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:) I think I need to tell Ale jrb about this, this has started happening quite a bit. Hi878 (talk) 03:39, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with IG, but huggle has a whitelist so that rarely happens between huggle users. Thank god, what a mess otherwise. Tommy2010 03:40, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm starting to see what you mean. :) Now all of your edits show up as probable vandalism. So far, it only marks the users that I have reverted as probable vandalism, and know I don't know which ones to look at... :) But Igloo is still in alpha testing, so these problems are understandable. Hi878 (talk) 03:45, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Download wp:huggle Tommy2010 03:46, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but then I would have to join the lowest level of society, the PC users. :) Hi878 (talk) 03:47, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Psh. Tommy2010 03:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

I'll take that as agreement. Hi878 (talk) 03:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

So it was Hi878 that made igloo think Tommy2010 is now a vandal. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ message • changes) 21:57, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey Excirial. Was wondering if you could unprotect my talk page, I think it's been long enough. Thanks, Tommy2010 14:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done No longer protected. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 14:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Gracias Tommy2010 14:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tommy,

Can you tell me the format for the warning template you use that adds the link to the specific diff resulting in the warning, like you did here, or show me where that's located for future reference? I don't see that discussed on the template page, and it doesn't show up in diffs because of the substitution. Thanks much, Northumbrian (talk) 16:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

I actually use an application called Huggle (sounds terrifying I know) which does that automatically. Nifty huh? Tommy2010 17:00, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Very good! That's the second mention of Huggle today; I'd not heard about it before now. Need to look into getting it! Cheers, Northumbrian (talk) 17:39, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Yup, just take a look at wp:hg Tommy2010 18:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my talk page! Lozeldafan (talk) 02:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Anytime friend. Tommy2010 02:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

why do you keep reverting my edit? Anything written in that section is pure propaganda, not 1 source is cited. Please elaborate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.83.2.35 (talk) 02:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Wikipedia. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Tommy2010 02:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

This is not an answer at all.

As said above, you removed content without any reason, and a large section I might add. Tommy2010 02:50, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I gave a reason on the talk page, can you cite 1 source that supported that section? It is build on thin air because it is pure propaganda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.83.2.35 (talk) 02:59, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I have no opinion in the matter, I just revert what overwhelmingly appeared to be unconstructive. Sorry for any misunderstanding. Tommy2010 03:00, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I will provide proof that the posted is untrue, will you stop reverting the deletion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.83.2.35 (talk) 03:07, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

It's not what you did, but how you did it. Yes, I won't revert any more of your edits. Tommy2010 03:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi, re this message [1], was it intended to be a different one? I was wondering if it would be OK to remove it as the user has been editing disruptively. Cassandra 73 (talk) 19:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello Cassandra. (Finally remembers why now) It was regarding this edit in which the IP says that the section is removed. That's why I sent the "So fix it" notification. --Tommy2010 19:43, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

If the IP is editing disruptively, yes feel free to remove it. Thanks, Tommy2010 19:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

How do you like the new layout of Wikipedia? On a scale from one to ten, ten being amazing, one being suckage. 2D Backfire Master ^{lovably sardonic} 11:11, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

8. They need to make the search bar longer. Everything else I like it. You? Tommy2010 11:37, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

An IP 24.248.154.74 has received 4 warnings and a final warning for disruptive editing. What do I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hereforhomework2 (talk • contribs) 19:57, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)WP:AIV my friend. If you "install" Twinkle in your prefs, this makes it extremely easy. Please sign your posts too. Sinebot is rather annoying. Tommy2010 19:59, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I can't use Twinkle because I use IE as my browser. Homework2 ^{pass a note}sign! 20:04, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

You should do yourself a favor and download Firefox or Google chrome... Tommy2010 20:05, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Ignore him. Safari is the best, unless you ever use Igloo. Hi878 (talk) 22:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Hahaha, you're a riot. "Ignore him" haha WHAT Chrome rocks! Tommy2010 22:57, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think that it is ugly :) Hi878 (talk) 23:04, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I, David Latford, am a prominent figure in the homosexual rights movement of Temperance, Michigan. I am currently trying to get a bill passed to allow gay couples rights for registering as a couple on formal town documents. I will gather the proper citations if needed.

-Loves ya! David "Steeley" Latford. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robotic Creamsicle (talk • contribs) 20:03, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I have doubts that you are serious. In any event, any unsourced biographical content is strongly discouraged here on Wikipedia, especially sensitive topics such as homosexuality. If you have a reliable source, please add it. Tommy2010 20:05, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I am not sure if it counts, but I have a news report from Temperance on a gay rights parade I organized. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robotic Creamsicle (talk • contribs) 20:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I am not sure, but I do not believe Youtube counts. But I may be wrong here. Tommy2010 20:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?CATEGORY=BN This is a news article about my aforementioned parade on Monroe News (the local news source). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robotic Creamsicle (talk • contribs) 20:11, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't see why not then. Use the following format for easy reading when a user clicks on the reference. After the sentence you can put the link in between <ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbaTur4A1OU link title]</ref> Tommy2010 20:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I see you are a fellow supporter of the gay rights community! That is great to know! I believe I can assume you are homosexual, as I am, after viewing your profile. It says you enjoy cooking, cheesecake, and label yourself as a chocoholic.

-David "Steeley" Latford. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robotic Creamsicle (talk • contribs) 20:29, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes because if you like cooking and cheesecake you must be gay. Tommy2010 20:30, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I have been using igloo, and it has been marking your huggle edits as vandalism today. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ message • changes) 21:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I've left a note on feedback. Tommy2010 22:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) My fault, apparently, unless you reverted him too. :) Hi878 (talk) 22:54, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh you're done. D-U-N. done. Tommy2010 22:58, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Hee hee. Hi878 (talk) 23:04, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks, Tommy2010. Ges, what a weird month as far as personal attacks!!! Pinethicket (talk) 22:22, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I got some fans myself :) Tommy2010 22:23, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

TMi cbbc page.

Not sure why random people were vandalizing that page. I should have put a edit summary to show what i had deleted.

Someone was being "creative" with the TMi guest list and kept adding guests that did not ever appear on the programme. I.E Michael Jackson: he had never appeared on this show, it was singer Alesha Dixon who filled in for the female host and some idiot thought Michael Jackson had filled in for her!

I was simply deleting the vandalism that others were making on that page and yes i should have added an edit summary! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.232.4 (talk) 23:11, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Well it looks like it's protected now as a result, but thank you for your help. You can create an account and learn more about using anti-vandalism tools. Thanks, Tommy2010 23:14, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I've noticed a bunch of people are vandalizing your pages. I know the feeling... something must be in the air today. I also notice you and my boyfriend, N419BH, are always fighting for rollbacks while on Huggle. Keep up the awesome work!  :) ElationAviation 23:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliments. You do good work yourself. --Tommy2010 23:16, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

A special thankyou for protecting my pageSusanbryce (talk) 09:44, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

		The Userpage Shield
		Thankyou for protecting my page Susanbryce (talk) 09:44, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome! Tommy2010 19:31, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

You de-edited my change to the Lottery, which is completely factual. The other stuff you de-edited was correct to de-edit, as someone else was messing with the account.

Have a nice day! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Urfaceeatscheese (talk • contribs) 21:26, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

It was unsourced and constitues wp:original research. Thank you. Tommy2010 21:27, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

I was not aware that my comment constituted original research. Thanks for the heads-up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Urfaceeatscheese (talk • contribs) 21:41, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

If you need anything else, don't be shy Tommy2010 21:46, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

		Thanks for letting me know!
		Thank you for letting me know. I am grateful. (Thanks!) 09:44, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Did u like it too? -Click son (talk) 21:39, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

sure Tommy2010 21:42, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes it's fine, Thanks! probably some school kid :) Sodacan (talk) 21:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Ha Ha Ha! you are infinitely wrong! -Click son (talk) 22:09, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Um the reason I edited it is because someone edited it to make it seem like a MALE character was a FEMALE one. That seems constructive, doesn't it? Godzillawolf (talk) 02:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Right. Except Vanessa is a female name and Mr. is a male title. You changed Ms. > Mr. for Vanessa, so no, that does not seem constructive to me. Tommy2010 02:44, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

It's a MALE CHARACTER, thus it HAS to have a male title! Godzillawolf (talk) 12:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

You're telling me a character with the name of "Vanessa Helen" in a Nickelodeon kid's show is a male character? Tommy2010 13:09, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Someone changed the name probably, but I know for a fact the character is male. I can probably even find the very scene discribed there on youtube if you don't believe me. Godzillawolf (talk) 16:49, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I'll look into it. Tommy2010 17:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done It was added by this IP yesterday. If the left side looks correct and the right side looks wrong, let me know and I will restore a correct version. Tommy2010 17:44, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the left side is right. They replaced a lot of other character's correct actors with wrong ones and put the wrong info in on a lot of them. Thanks. Godzillawolf (talk) 18:25, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done. If you need any more help let me know. Tommy2010 18:30, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't know! As soon as I could, I switched over to MonoBook and turned off the new features. The search bar is currently in the same place on my screen. 2D Backfire Master ^{lovably sardonic} 11:47, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Uh why? Tommy2010 13:10, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Because, I liked the old layout of everything. I'm not a person who likes their furniture moved. 2D Backfire Master ^{lovably sardonic} 18:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Haha. I like change. Although facebook on the other hand... too much change. lol Tommy2010 19:01, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I am sorry for the inconvenience of the Mitchell Lewis being posted under December 21, because clearly the link sends you to a page about some one different. However, the other Mitch Lewis is actually born on that date and is an important person who deserves to be on this page. He is an artist and a musician growing in popularity. He is said to be "changing the world of music forever." So if you could not ban me when I add him I would be extremely thankful.24.9.122.200 (talk) 05:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Sounds biased and like an autobiography... according to who? Tommy2010 05:27, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Well as much as I wish that I was Mr. Lewis, I am not. He has a rapidly growing fan base in Colorado,(especially Fort Collins, Colorado) however his fan base spreads all the way to Massachusetts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.122.200 (talk) 05:34, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

I recommend you create an account then and start the article that is different from the current person with the same name. Be sure to have some links/refs. Tommy2010 05:37, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

How do I start a new article?24.9.122.200 (talk) 05:40, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

1. Click here and create an account (required). When your account is made 2. Click here to use the article wizard to help create your page. It walks you through the process. I recommend using "Mitchell Lewis (musician)" as the title of the page, and as said earlier, be sure to have links for references and such. If you need help, I'll be here. Tommy2010 05:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Malaysia, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you.Qwerta369 (talk) 15:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

O really? Tommy2010 15:54, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Really. Qwerta369 (talk) 16:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Suggest you take a look at wp:vandalism as well as take a closer look at the page history of my edits. Tommy2010 16:03, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

PMJI, but both of you could've looked at your reverts more closely. Tommy2010's revert re-introduced older vandalism but is was done in good faith and so shouldn't have gotten a uw-vand1 warning. Also, Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:08, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Maybe I was being rude. Vandalism is defined as edits that are clearly done to disrupt Wikipedia. Good faith edits, even bad ones, including those done by IPs are not vandalism. As Neil said, a welcome to Wikipedia is also not necessary. Tommy2010 16:46, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes you're quite right. I apologise. Qwerta369 (talk) 17:03, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Accepted Tommy2010 22:38, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I apologize for giving you that warning.--Katieh5584 (talk) 18:28, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

No biggie Tommy2010 18:28, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey Tommy2010,
Just wondering what happened here, because I warned them, and you replaced the warning and added your own for a different page!

Limideen 18:48, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello! It might have been an edit conflict due to the fact both edits where done at the same time. Sorry for that. Tommy2010 20:54, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Last message. Please, can you check articles God, Goddess and similar. Apparently there is a problem with some template and a long list of nonsense appear at the end of the text. 150.203.177.97 (talk) 02:27, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I will do that. Tommy2010 02:27, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Can I remove the nonsense from my talk? 150.203.177.97 (talk) 02:28, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes. I do not believe I warned you. Thank you very much I see what you are talking about. Tommy2010 02:29, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Tommy. I tried to detect the problem but I couldn't find it. 150.203.177.97 (talk) 02:30, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. It was {{theology}} Tommy2010 02:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I see :-) Thanks, I've learned something. 150.203.177.97 (talk) 02:44, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes and I apologize for the misunderstanding. Generally speaking, if a user reverts or removes content by a user/ip it is usually their right to do so, which is why I did it. Thanks again, Tommy2010 02:45, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Oops, I didn't know that. Is it some rule or just a common practice? 150.203.177.97 (talk) 02:52, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Users and IPs have the right to remove any content they want from their talk pages as evidence that they have read the messages, although archiving is preferrable for a number of reasons. However, if a user is being continuously warned for vandalism, removing warning templates are not a free pass. Obviously not true for your case, but generally speaking, yes. Tommy2010 02:54, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok, only for talk pages then. Thanks. I haven't been editing much in the english wikipedia, so there is a number of topics which aren't very familiar to me. If I will need advice I'll contact you :-) 150.203.177.97 (talk) 03:02, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, anytime bud Tommy2010 03:24, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert to my page. You're TOO quick!  :) Wikipelli ^Talk 14:54, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes! haha Tommy2010 14:55, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting. --Technopat (talk) 21:44, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Anytime friend Tommy2010 21:58, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Very strange as to why you deleted my edit on "Mein Kampf", I thought it was very educational given that kids really "cba" to read through all the jibber jabber you post on it, I allowed the children to understand the book in a mere 10 words, you sir, are preventing the so called "special" ones from doing so, you sick, sick man.86.161.212.95 (talk) 21:56, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

You do not have the right to remove something just because you don't like it, we are non-biased and cover everything to be known. Tommy2010 21:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I didn't say I disliked it, and yes, YOU are being very biased to the ones with dyslexia and all sorts of learning disabilities, my meaning allows ALL to understand, meaning I was completely unbiased, duh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.212.95 (talk) 22:01, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page!
--Gyrobo (talk) 21:56, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Anytime friend Tommy2010 21:58, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I am confused as to why you reverted my edit to Manny Ramirez. I was reverting vandalism. The previous user added the phrase "he is gay" to the article. Please explain why you reverted me. Glass Sword (talk) 22:01, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Tommy2010 22:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

User talk:86.161.210.159 have you annoyed a couple of IPs tonight?! Lol! --5 albert square (talk) 23:19, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Well you know me... kickin ass and takin names. But I looks like I annoyed a neo-nazi... oh how horrible I feel. Tommy2010 00:08, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar. I appreciate appreciation for my hard work. Take care. Spitfire19 (Talk) 03:20, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

[2] The Thing That Should Not Be (talk) 03:37, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Well at least you have just general vandals "befriending" you. As for me, along with the general vandals, I've had an entire group of trolls from 4chan attack me, all recruited by this little bugger. The Thing That Should Not Be (talk) 03:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah yes, another sockpuppeteer. The Thing, what happened to your sig? ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐) 03:49, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I decided to go with the default one. The Thing That Should Not Be (talk) 03:50, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) dude that log is insane. Little bastard. Looks like a real pain in the ass for the sysopperys. Tommy2010 03:51, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

WOW... reading that page on that banned user is almost scary.. that's fucked up. Tommy2010 03:55, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Indeed... [3] [4] [5] The Thing That Should Not Be (talk) 04:06, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh. my. god. Tommy2010 04:08, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

And the usernames he's created... I can't begin to explain. He's created thousands, if not tens of thousands of attack usernames that attack various administrators. How he manages to find the time, I have absolutely no clue. The Thing That Should Not Be (talk) 04:32, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)(adding to this discussion on that sockmaster) Anyone know why we don't deny recognition to uber-trolls like that? How come he wasn't able to be blocked? How do we let organized crime (this almost crosses the line to the police's jurisdiction) happen??? 2D Backfire Master ^{Final Form!} 11:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there was an email sent to contact this guys mother as it looks like he is my age, about 21, if he was 15 in 2004. Of course, the mother was "offended" even with proof that Wikimedia gave (you can read it on that LTA page). Clearly there is something "off" with this guy. Tommy2010 11:54, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

You know, I just realized I have seen random new users move pages to variations of H ? A G G E R.. now I realize that's him! Tommy2010 12:21, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I would speculate that it wasn't his mother that replied to the emails sent by Wikimedia, but he himself... and I really wouldn't use the word "off" to describe him... I would use the word "sadistic", perhaps, considering that he's been attacking admins for years, using hateful and threats that are beyond vulgar, and that I won't repeat here. The Thing That Should Not Be (talk) 12:22, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I saw the previous version of the admin page... yea, originally I was thinking more of "psychologically fucked up" or "in need of psychotherapy." Maybe he's just a sociopath and feels no shame? Meh, who knows. I can only imagine his real world life.. But maybe not.. he knows Greek.. the alphabet that is. Interesting. Tommy2010 12:26, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Um, I don't know if this okay, but there is a user that has a name very similar to yours but he is vandalizing. At first I thought it was you, but it isn't. Is there some type of policy against similar user names? Homework2 ^TalkWhat I do 16:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Reported. Thank you very much. Tommy2010 16:36, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure. No prob. Homework2 ^TalkWhat I do 16:37, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:34, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello...I was wondering if there was a valid reason you reverted the Bar Mitzvah page to an edit before my correction of

/ Bar Barakah means, in *Hebrew*, "Son of the Blessing." ----> / Bar Barakah means, in *Aramaic*, "Son of the Blessing."

The revised text is incorrect; my initial edit was a correction of the faulty information included in the article. You should not be so enthusiastic about blindly reverting all edits made by unregistered users as "vandalism" without first checking to ensure the propriety of their contributions. I have changed the text back to read "Aramaic" once more; please do not revert this to "Hebrew" again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.68.72.108 (talk) 05:21, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Everything I reverted in that article was blatant vandalism. However, I did have to jump back a few revisions, in which case that information might have been lost, which I'm sorry. Tommy2010 11:56, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmm...actually, the revision I had made was immediately after one of yours, which happens to have been the one that you reverted to when you erased my edit. As there were no edits between mine and yours, there was obviously no vandalism you could possibly have been reverting by erasing my edit. In fact, I even filled out the summary describing the contents of the edit (the entire purpose of which practise is to communicate the validity of the edit); in the future, if you consider the contents of the edit summaries before assuming "blatant vandalism," you may avoid the unnecessary of elimination of valid and valuable information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.68.72.108 (talk) 05:37, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

All my reversions (meh okay, I see this one was a mishap... there was a lot of vandalism before and after these edits.) were the removal of blatant vandalism. ... Tommy2010 11:25, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Apologies. Tommy2010 11:38, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

I see you started a guestbook. Would you like it to be added to a list of pretty much every guestbook on Wikipedia, to ensure massive sign-age? User:Jack started a list at User:Jack/ABs. Should I add yours to it? 2D Backfire Master ^{Final Form!} 11:43, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

No prob, thanks. Tommy2010 11:52, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Immunize (talk) 14:59, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tommy, Thanks for keeping an eye on the vandalism on the assorted horse and rodeo articles, WPEQ thanks you! Montanabw^(talk) 23:32, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

No problem Tommy2010 23:41, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the cookies Tommy. I like them. Mr. Slinks (talk) 00:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the cookies Mr. Slinks (talk) 00:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

No problem! and again, if you need anything (even though you helped me!) don't be afraid to ask! Cheers! Tommy2010 00:18, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

Haha, should have done that in the first place! I already undid your revert, so, we're done here- happy Huggling! (I like to keep a browser opening for quick Googling of things that don't quite make sense to my eye, though, I've seen this guy play before.) Bradjamesbrown (talk) 00:55, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

And by the way, congrats on your sysopperinessity. :) Tommy2010 00:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. With ~14 hours to go, I'm beginning to feel cautious optimism. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 08:16, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

-- Rrburke (talk) 01:00, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

(keeping the thread in one place and not sure if you're still watching my userpage). Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:21, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

So you want me to archive you again? That's fine with me, just tell me if I must. 2D Backfire Master ^{Final Form!} 11:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

No I have a few more convos to deal with.. which I'll start with right now. Tommy2010 11:21, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

When I get to 65 sections I'll archive it (or try it ;). Tommy2010 23:32, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) There's also automatic archiving. See User:MiszaBot for more information. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ • ✐) 23:34, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks NSD. I will do that later, time for a party :) Tommy2010 23:45, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't mean to save those edits :/ 213.81.125.17 (talk) 23:08, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Practice here: user:tommy2010/vandalizeTommy2010 23:09, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

This isn't vandalism! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.81.125.17 (talk) 23:27, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

You need a reliable source for content like that, sorry. Tommy2010 23:31, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Didn't notice quickly enough I reverted on your vandalize page.  :) Wikipelli ^Talk 15:52, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

That's okay, I was going to message you but I'm glad you caught it. Tommy2010 15:53, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Tell me if I read this wrong. You put a block notice to yourself as a joke. So I thought it would be fun to add the "Oh please no" message. Was I mistaken to do that? Wierd, I just saved this a minute ago to your talk and it's not there so this is a second attempt. A collision with Wikipelli? Slightsmile (talk) 16:02, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, well that was a bad usage of it on my part – but it was actually for the user above, who was trolling several users asking for a block. I wouldn't put the block template on my own page, unless I blocked myself, which I can't do :) Tommy2010 16:04, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

You really shouldn't use unblock templates humorously, because admins would come over here and be very confused. Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:08, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I never used it humorously. Tommy2010 16:09, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I said the unblock template was being used humorously. Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I won't make that error again. Thanks for clarifying. Slightsmile (talk) 16:39, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the mis-read, Eagles, and I appreciate your input here. Tommy2010 16:48, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

you're upsetting people left and right tonight!  :) Wikipelli ^Talk 23:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

BAHAHA I'm more of a kitty person tho :(  – Tommy2010 23:49, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

It's common knowledge - Florida is America's Wang. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.91.0.96 (talk) 00:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Mate, Please don't revert my edits without providing a reason. How are you to do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.60.240 (talk) 02:05, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For 17000+ edits just this month!! wow.. Traxs7 03:02, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

and I thought I was making a lot of edits.. great job!!! Traxs7

Thank you!  – Tommy2010 12:39, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Please take a bit more care reverting IP users. I noticed a good edit that you reverted, perhaps because it was tagged as removing references. Please read edits carefully before reverting them, especially if it's an IP user - scaring away good contributors does the project far more harm than vandalism. Orpheus (talk) 07:16, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Uh, that's a good edit? Can you elaborate more on that for me? I don't think any vandal fighter would not have reverted that. And I try very hard to revert only vandalism because I am well aware IPs may be scared away by false warnings- I was one of them.  – Tommy2010 11:28, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Messaged user about removing content, I think that edit was overly ambiguous.  – Tommy2010 17:34, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

You added a warning again to the bottom of this person's page.

This person is not a one off vandal, but is the subject of an abuse investigation - Wikipedia:Abuse response/84.241.53.54 - and should be blocked,

The poster in question is using a number of names, and IPs, displaying much the same behaviour pattern. Please add evidence at the abuse response page above.--MacRusgail (talk) 09:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

I revert vandalism and it automatically warns the users, starting at level 1 if the IP/user has not been warned within a day. Will do.  – Tommy2010 11:30, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Tommy, I can't assume good faith, as there is obviously one individual operating under different identity whose sole object in life seems to be to change "Arabian Gulf" to "Persian Gulf". For what it's worth, I'd say Persian Gulf as well... or "the Gulf", if I wished to be politically correct, but this individual has a history going back months, and does not respond on their talk page(s). It's very much an ongoing problem, and I don't believe that first level warnings are in order for such a person, who's been vandalising the same pages for years under different identities. He knows exactly what he's doing.

I understand why you did what you did, and I think we need more people keeping a watch on Wikipedia, but I think this person has a track record, albeit under different IPs. He edits very little else other than the Arabian Gulf articles. I'm beginning to move towards the idea that all users should have an account - it would slow down vandalism perhaps, even if, sadly, it stopped some genuine editors.--MacRusgail (talk) 12:00, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Understood. But Wikipedia works, and even if it is a long-term abuse case, best to pretend to be stupid than to act like you're right, even if you are ;)  – Tommy2010 12:38, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

I also came here to mention a blind revert you did here. While it's debatable which version is better, the IP was clearly trying to improve the article and even left a good edit summary. Even if you undid the edit, you should not blindly warn the user: please see WP:BITE. Newcomers should be encouraged to edit Wikipedia, not scared away. Better to leave out warning a hundred one-off vandals than to discourage one potentially helpful contributor! Shreevatsa (talk) 22:49, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

To be fair, I think I missed the edit summary and saw only the random letters, which is a common type of vandalism. Messaged user.  – Tommy2010 23:10, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that is probably what happened, which is exactly why I said you should be more careful, especially in looking at the edit summary. Look, I understand that reverting vandalism is essential to Wikipedia, and it is good that you spend so much time on it. It is fine if some good edits are reverted for "looking like" vandalism — someone paying attention can always restore them. But it is not fine if users are scared away unnecessarily. I suggest that you revert edits just the way you do now, but leave warnings on a user page only when you are very certain that there has been vandalism. (I'm not sure what purpose these warnings serve in the first place, other than for repeated vandals — most users probably will not visit again soon from the same IP address, and there's always the danger that some other user may be assigned the IP address and see a scary message.) Shreevatsa (talk) 23:53, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I will implement that by using more reverting and revert/warn in a more distinguishable way.  – Tommy2010 00:14, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Im just PO'd right now. Dappl (talk) 00:53, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page —Tommy2010 00:57, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

For undoing vandalism to my talk page--much appreciated. Cheers, JNW (talk) 00:56, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Spoke to the editor in question —Tommy2010 00:58, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I think the Stop hand should be at the bottom half of the notice, not the top half. If there's any way to do it, I suggest getting it done (I notice it's full protected now). mechamind90 05:59, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

No, because the points at the top are supposed to grab your attention. I believe it has deterred vandalism from this page. —Tommy2010 12:20, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I've removed a comment (forgot to login), per WP:DENY. Pilif12p 22:00, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

RE: [6] I am hoping that this was a goodwill gesture indicating that G is willing to put aside what was a not so great start at Wikipedia and begin to work towards being a productive member of the community; and not a disruptive act. You may wish to revert yourself? Thanks for the consideration. Active Banana (talk) 22:01, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

see above. —Tommy2010 22:02, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert on my user page. After a half hour on Huggle I'm already seeing double. I think a break may be a good idea. ScottyBerg (talk) 22:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I'll take over :P no problem —Tommy2010 22:07, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

whyo do you hate me >:(

I don't hate you. —Tommy2010 22:15, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

you dont really cause i never vandalised and you said that i was how ever i did fix some pages that other people vandalised —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.251.32.35 (talk) 22:31, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

1. don't tell people to "go fuck yourself" and 2. vandalism. —Tommy2010 22:33, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! For... I forgot what. But it was something. Several things. ×××BrightBlackHeaven^(talk)××× 22:21, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Youre welc.. for whatever :P. —Tommy2010 22:28, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I reverted the edit you did here because I didn't see how it was vandalism. May I ask what your reasons were? -WarthogDemon 02:42, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. —Tommy2010 02:44, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

The edit I made to the Shih Tzu page was NOT vandalism. As to size, there is MUCH controversy regarding size and the information was listed as fact, when it's not fact - but opinion. Also, crossbred info should NOT be included on the purebred page. The page is for Shih Tzu, not the crossbred mutts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.61.95 (talk) 13:03, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello. The first edit was a removal of content without explanation, as I made sure I used the delete2 warning. The 2nd of your edits, I believe merited a level 3 warning as it again removed a different section (with citations), again, without explanation. I am not saying you're wrong, I realy don't know much about dogs, but if you remove content, actually if you ever edit anything on Wikipedia, it is always best to explain why. Thank you —Tommy2010 13:15, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

So do I go back in and remove again and type my explanation? I am new to editing here, but am extremely knowledgeable regarding the Shih Tzu. I just don't like seeing someone's opinion expressed as fact. Can you restore my edit with the reasons given to you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.61.95 (talk) 13:23, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, absolutely! That's why anyone can edit it! Knowledgeable people are supposed to edit Wikipedia! But, when you say knowledgeable, you can't use experience as a reason, as any information people put in Wikipedia must be verifiable. Wikipedia recently revamped its website to make it easier for new users to add citations and edit pages to be more welcoming and less frightening. Every page has a history button. You can see where it says my name (Tommy2010 ... reverted edits by ..... bla bla bla) above your IP. You can undo my edit and explain why the information should or should not be in Wikipedia. If you would like assistance with citing references, you can ask, although Wikipedia has made it extremely easy to do now, as there is a new Cite option at the top of the edit box. —Tommy2010 13:28, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

There seems to be a discussion of sorts going on at Talk:Shih Tzu#Crosses: remove cross info? to which this IP has contributed. Nothing like consensus has emerged, so going ahead and deleting stuff is not a very good idea. Favonian (talk) 13:36, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah, thanks Fav. I was going along with the be bold! and WP:IAR approach but if there is a discussion, best to utilize it. Thanks! —Tommy2010 13:47, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Please fix this article (categories, references and other). If you do so, you will be awarded by new barnstar :) Aleksa Lukic (talk) 16:20, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I'll do what I can.. but I have a strong feeling I don't know much about this.. —Tommy2010 16:22, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done Fixed the references. —Tommy2010 16:30, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

...for removing vandal comments from my Talk page -- Boing! said Zebedee 18:57, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

The public services section of this page has an EMS provider listed that is not the actual EMS provider for that township. Through trial and error I have finally edited this section to reflect the accurate information, with correct citation to a website that confirms the information. User Nyttend continuously changes it back. User Nyttend has made comments about me on the edit section and when I did the same he reprimanded my page. I have also recieved a message from you that asks me not to "edit war" which is obviously what has begun to happen. This matter needs a third party decision at this point. Will you please review both edits to the page because I don't understand why mine is being labeled "inaccurate" when it is actually the accurate statement. I work for Concord Township and I know exactly who provides emergency services and fire suppression and it is definitely not Delaware County EMS. Thank You, laneberlin22Laneberlin22 (talk) 19:08, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. —Tommy2010 20:44, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Just to acknowledge that the great majority of us surely appreciate your huge amount of great anti-vandalism work, even if there are some who don't -- Boing! said Zebedee 21:57, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, although I am in a bad mood. 22:11, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I understand - I've added a comment at User talk:Stwalkerster -- Boing! said Zebedee 22:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I noticed that you are/were recently engaged in a fierce debate over whether or not you are sane competent up to the near-unreachable standards some Wikipedians demand. You're doing fine. Just remember: keep a cool head. A flustered debater is likely to say outrageous statements by accident. I think you are competent, sane, and up to par. But that's me, the dude who keeps editing fun pages when vandalism is low. Keep up the good work, but remember to stay cool, and it's not the quantity, but the quality. But all reverts are quality, I suppose. 2D Maestro ^{Immune Diplomat} 11:11, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

I try 2D, I try. I'm just really annoyed. I called an account a troll, got questioned and humiliated for it.. and oh look. It's a troll. shocking. And what really upsets me is that in real life, I'm a really easy going person, and many people say I'm optimistic. So for random editors to say "I need to agf more" is a bit ridiculous. that's all, but I appreciate the comments. I'm not angry anymore, just really annoyed, it makes me not want to contribute anymore. —Tommy2010 16:24, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Please carry on contributing. If there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that you will, from time to time, have disagreements with people over the "letter of the law". Try stating your case and walking away – and when it turns out you were right all along, that's even more satisfying. Keep your head while others around you lose theirs. Carry on, Tommy! – B.hotep •talk• 08:16, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

(=! Im back! because of that —Tommy2010 16:34, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes. I didn't see the conflict that you're talking about here, but whatever is, please don't feel that youve suddenly lost all of our appreciation and admiration when you make a mistake. —Soap— 17:12, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I see that you are actively reverting vandalism. Would you be interested to give it a test run to a a Web 2.0 countervandalism collaboration tool that I develop? It's here: http://wpcvn.com/ The site is supposed to be intuitive. Can you try using it, patrol a few recent changes and give me some feedback? --Dc987 (talk) 05:38, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I'll check it out. —Tommy2010 12:07, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

So you have to click on each diff? —Tommy2010 12:17, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes. It would open a standard diff in a new tab and would include your nickname into the "Patrolled By" column.

That's not obvious from the interface? Or you want to be able to see the diff in the table? I thought that standard diffs are a good choice: familiar + one can use Twinkle right away.

--Dc987 (talk) 22:36, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Have you used huggle? Just wondering. I like the layout from huggle better. The recent changes are on the left, and when you click on a change (from the article) the diff opens up in the middle so you see the diff link. It's pretty intuitive. My feedback would be a quicker method of viewing the diff link because to click on each one seems like it'd take a lot of time. —Tommy2010 23:05, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Aha. Just tried huggle and I think I can see your point. Good tool should use its own brains (import soul ;) ) and simply show juiciest currently unreverted vandalism case to the user. --Dc987 (talk) 02:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tommy

I'm just wondering why you removed my warning on this users talk page? I warned him for this edit in which he added a link to Facebook which is not allowed as far as I'm aware. XLinkBot had previously warned him for the same addition but you removed my warning saying the edit wasn't vandalism yet left both of XLinkBot's in? I'm confused! --5 albert square (talk) 22:06, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

From what I remember (cuz the page has been deleted under G7) you warned him for blanking the page (even though I see it was for an EL, but I'm almost positive it was also a page blanking), and then he did it again so I reverted but then checked the page history. It's not vandalism if the creator of a page blanks it. —Tommy2010 22:09, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Nope, I definitely didn't warn him for blanking a page I warned him for adding Facebook as a link after XLinkBot had deleted it --5 albert square (talk) 22:14, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Gah, okay. I swear it was for something different, but I can't verify. Sorry for any misunderstanding —Tommy2010 22:16, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

No worries, thought it was just a mistake somehow but Wikipedias been confusing me all day! --5 albert square (talk) 22:25, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

How so? —Tommy2010 22:28, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

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