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Due to our dispute regarding the percentages in the infobox on 2024 North Macedonian presidential election, I have asked the Manual of Style talk page and the No original research talk page for their input as part of an attempt to find consensus (if there is any). You should share your views, and if necessary correct my preliminary presentation of them, if they are in error, there. 212.79.110.147 (talk) 23:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You did delete a section in Albin Kurti page. This was a wandalism because i add all the citation in every section. You may not like somthing but you do not need to delete things because wikpedia policy would consider vandalism. The section was relationships of Kurti with Albanian Parties in North Macedonia. Why you did need to delete somthing that was rational and facts Kosovasi (talk) 14:07, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, you need to look up what vandalism is. Second, most of the content was not supported by the sources you added.

I can summarize all the issues, so that you can understand why I removed the section in question.

Kosovo and North Macedonia have a balanced relationship because 619 thousand Albanians live in this country, which is 29 percent of the population in Macedonia.

- This statement was cited to three sources. None of them even discussed Kosovo-North Macedonia relations, only statistics. The first source even acknowledged that 24% percent of Albanians are residents. It is 29% if you count the diaspora as well.

Kurti also clashed with former president Hashim Thaci, accusing him of being the mastermind behind the dismemberment of Kosovo.

- This part is not supported by the sources. So, I removed it per WP:BLP: "Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—must be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion."

He was also angry with Ali Ahmet for the regional initiative "Open Balkans" in which Albania, Serbia and North Macedonia had participated.

- Unsourced as per previous.

Kurti's influence in North Macedonia among the Albanian youth was estimated as great as they see Kurti as a politician who is not corrupt and is consistent in his positions.

While the analysts estimated that the Albanian political entity "VLEN" had used Kurti as an image to attract votes from the Albanian population in North Macedonia.

- This here is weasel wording. Only one analyst has this opinion. The rest of the sources do not even have any opinions from analysts.

Analysts estimate that Prime Minister Kurti and VLEN have now deepened their political cooperation and share similar political views

- No source for this statement.

Ali Ahmeti's party has accused Kurti that with his policies he is interfering with the Albanian fate in Macedonia by siding with certain political parties.

- It was Ahmeti, not his party, as per the source.

To sum it all up, most of the content is not supported by the sources and even if I left some content, all that would be left is accusations, which would result in an unencyclopedic and low-quality section. Wikipedia is pretty strict when it comes to biographies of living people, so if you want to have such a section, you'll need to bring in better sources which support the content, as well as be wary of tone. The tone in the section was also very subjective and unencyclopedic.

StephenMacky1 (talk) 14:41, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I add all the source in every page. They are all news writing in albanian you can translate them. As albanian population yes they are 29 percent with diaspora what is wrong with that. Do not be jerk the fact you are macedonian it does not mean to delete things in other pages. Because Kurti has accused Thaci and Ali Ahmeti for dividing Kosovo and you can find 1000 thousand articles about this. Kosovasi (talk) 14:54, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People from the diaspora are people who live out of the country and the first statement you added makes it sound like they still live in the country. My nationality has nothing to do with this and you need to refrain from making personal attacks. As per WP:BLP, the burden of evidence is on you, not me. You have to support every claim with a source. StephenMacky1 (talk) 15:03, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We contribute in wikpedia for free. Alright i would add that the albanian population in 24 percent based in census and with people who live abroad in 29 percent. I would add also the citations in every page. You can translate them. I live in Kosovo so i know better than you the political things in my country. I am not attacking you but find a time and read and you know what i am saying. Because i am sure 100 percent you do not know albanian language and you did not follow media in Kosovo and Albania. I am trying to write somthing that happened. Kosovasi (talk) 15:11, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course we do, but we still have to respect the policies and guidelines here. Look, you can ask for a third opinion if you want. We don't have to trust each other, but we can trust the sources. I also already checked every source in question. I would not remove without checking. StephenMacky1 (talk) 15:18, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kosovasi, what do you think about these sources?

Osmani: Kurti's attempts to interfere in local politics nothing new, but won't have any impact

Elections in North Macedonia: Between the dreams of the EU and pan-Albanian aspirations of Albin Kurti

Kosovo’s Vetevendosje Dips Toe in North Macedonia’s Elections

Controversy and debate surrounding Albin Kurti’s visit to North Macedonia

Flying of Greater Albania flag during Kosovan PM’s North Macedonia visit sparks regional scandal

North Macedonia’s Albanian parties leaders hosted by PM Kurti in Pristina

Ahmeti: Unlike Rama, Kurti interferes in internal affairs of Albanians in North Macedonia

I think they can be used to re-create the section, based on verifiable information, of course. I do agree that such a section is necessary, but we need to ensure that everything can be verified. StephenMacky1 (talk) 14:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, what do you know about the Turkish language in Azerbaijan? (The antiquity of the Turkish language in Azerbaijan) R.Arsalan (talk) 18:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted what I wrote. Am I giving wrong information? Johnovski (talk) 20:55, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Article's talk pages are not for general discussions about the subjects, but to discuss about improvements or issues with an article. StephenMacky1 (talk) 21:07, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but am i wrong with this information?

I believe we North Macedonians need to wake up. And not to eat our fake history Johnovski (talk) 21:25, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Look, people here aren't interested in discussing about such things, because that's not the purpose of this site. You can try Kajgana or Reddit, but good luck, people are so far down the hole there. StephenMacky1 (talk) 21:35, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if you are from North Macedonia, but I know you skip the question like my friend there. Johnovski (talk) 21:40, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but that's not relevant. Also self-correction, the link is MOS:MAC. You can check it out. StephenMacky1 (talk) 21:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is purely a political note, now historically this is not the case. But thanks for this page. Johnovski (talk) 21:56, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh wikipedia of North Macedonia. It just calls itself Macedonia, Why does Wikipedia allow this? Johnovski (talk) 22:05, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to the Macedonian Wikipedia? That's because they don't have the same policies and guidelines as the English Wikipedia here. Their rationale is that "Macedonia" is the common name in Macedonian. Unfortunately, there's currently no mechanism that allows for consistency in information between different Wikimedia projects.

I don't know what you mean by political note. MOS:MAC was made to save us trouble. StephenMacky1 (talk) 22:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]