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Because you've contributed to FPC either recently or in the past, I'm letting you know about the above poll on the basis of which we may develop proposals to change our procedures and criteria. Regards, Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 09:36, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi Pengo, because you contributed to FPC's recent review, I'm letting you know that the results of the poll have been posted. We appreciate your contributions to the first stage and hope you take part in this next step, here, to move towards implementing several changes to the process. Regards, Maedin\talk 18:30, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Descopy
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Hi
Thank you for your nice diagram in the Wikipedia article kingdom (biology).
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complete icosahedron
Hi,
Looks fine to me. Thank you for the call, anyway. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 19:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
IPA question
I went ahead and moved your question about IPA to WP:RD/L#Quick brown fox of IPA? (Phonetic pangram?), as the IPA talk page is only meant for discussions about improving that article, not questions about the IPA in general. Hope you don't mind, rʨanaɢ (talk) 01:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Continued fraction for sine
Sorry, but I can't help you with the Pringsheim notation, and since you didn't cite a source for it, I was obligated to revert the notation while keeping the continued fraction. — Glenn L (talk) 07:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Pengo, Just an idea, but why don't you co-licence this image under GPL? I know that this image is not "free software" per se. The main idea behind it is just that you can publish the whole image under one licence (GPL) and not two...
cheers --D-Kuru (talk) 21:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- Done. Not sure I follow your logic entirely, but I've dual licensed with GPL and GFDL now. —Pengo 23:50, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- thanks --D-Kuru (talk) 20:30, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
We have a number of FP candidates at the moment that need additional reviews (to build consensus), listed at the above link. I thought you might be interested as you've been a reviewer in the past. Also, do feel free to nominate any images that you are aware of that meet our standards. Best regards, Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 08:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
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I noticed you restored Edius. Would you please restore the talk page, too? --Pnm (talk) 03:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
- Oops, missed it. Restored. —Pengo 06:13, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! --Pnm (talk) 05:33, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
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Using image Library Pengo.jpg
Hi,
While setting up a wiki about libraries, I've founded your image Library Pengo.jpg.
You can see the using on:
I'm only on charge of designing this wiki and I dont know what will be the final choice of librarians. But it feels well...
Thanks for having put it in free licence.
Best regards
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hierarchy of biological classifications on the Phylum page of Wikipedia
I would like to use your Biological Classification image for a children's BugBook that I am writing. The book will be inter-media and will include hyperlinks to the Phylum page in Wikipedia as well as other URLs. Thanks, Nature Whisperer Dennis Burton BugWhisperer (talk) 16:24, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- No worries. You have my permission —Pengo 00:37, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi there Pengo. Most of these Latin words have now been created. Is it OK to remove blue link entries from the list? Those that remain are either two Latin words jammed together, derived from a botanist's surname, or just plain mystifying. I'll have a go at the other pages soonish. Cheers. Jeff Knaggs (talk) 17:39, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
- Yep, That's fine. Go for it. Maybe leave a note that they've been removed so people can check the history if they want the original list. Thanks for taking the time. I'd forgotten I'd ever created those pages. —Pengo 02:40, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
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Brown mountain
Hi Pengo,
Just looking at your lovely photos of Brown Mountain forest. I'm actually wanting to take some people out there next week. You mention you took photos on the Goongerah Old Growth Forest Walk. Just wondering if you have GPS coordinates for that or simple directions for how to get there, and whether access is suitable for a 2WD car. Also wondering whether you know anything about access to Goolengook. Cheers, --jjron (talk) 12:08, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. --jjron (talk) 10:52, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. Went and saw Jill on Thursday before doing the walk and she gave me the low-down. The 'track' was a bit rough and we lost it at one stage, but eventually got back on it. It doesn't go down to the river/creek anymore, though it was within earshot; apparently a biologist had warned the walkers could impact on the frogs down there, so they took that bit out. It was an interesting walk overall, but we had to rush a bit as it was getting late and didn't want to try to find our way out in the dark (so that meant limited time for photos). Jill said she didn't think we'd get to Goolengook, suspected the bridge was out, but hadn't actually tried herself for a long time; we wouldn't have had time anyway. --jjron (talk) 15:43, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
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Hi! I hope you like what I did. I like the little seedlings pic. It gives a sort of hope! Amandajm (talk) 02:17, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
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Community input required: lowering delist bar at FPC
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MSU Interview
Dear Pengo,
My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
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List of retronyms - dial-up
I know this was tagged way back in October 2010, but I just came across this and it struck me as odd, and you left no explanation on the talk page. Could you please explain What exactly you find dubious about the term dial-up as a retronym?
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Melbourne meetup
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July WMAU Melbourne Meetup
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'Needs washed' as copula omission
Hello, Pengo. You recently edited Copula (linguistics) in a way that suggests "The car needs washed" is a copula omission. I'm not aware of any published analysis that calls such constructions copula omission, though they may well exist. It's also possible, though, to analyze this construction in a way that does not imply copula deletion, e.g. as a variant of "The car needs washing." If you know of any sources that are on-point, could you add them to the article? Thanks, and happy editing. Cnilep (talk) 02:49, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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Simia maxima
Hi Peter,
I noticed that, back in 2006, you created the Simia maxima redirect to King Kong. Was this a joke, or is King Kong ever actually referred to by a scientific name in the relevant films or other media? The term doesn't appear on the article, and I have been unsuccessful in tracking down references to the term. Unless we can source it, I would recommend deleting it; I can't imagine anyone using it as a search term unless it appears in the media somewhere.
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- Hi Neelix. Good question. It wasn't something I made up, but I don't remember where it was from. I suspect I got the name from somewhere in Peter Jackson's 2005 King Kong film, but I really don't remember and can't give a more precise answer than that, sorry. —Pengo 04:46, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back to me, Peter. Considering that we don't have a source for the name, I have proposed the redirect for deletion. Please feel free to leave your thoughts at the discussion here. Neelix (talk) 16:23, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
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Missing ants
I'm impressed by the interesting and useful lists of missing taxa you have created. Would you be able to create one with missing ants? On a second note, a list that includes bluelinks would also be very useful for importance tagging. jonkerz ♠talk 14:13, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Jonkerz. Sure thing. I can do that. I've got some bad news for you though: the list looks the same when you include blue links (i.e. it's all red links). Good chance there's some redirects from synonyms missing though. This is the whole list. All ant species (Formicidae) which were found in at least 40 publications (the minimum for google ngrams to pick it up), as long as one mention was after 1970. User:Pengo/ants. —Pengo 15:02, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
- Oops. I saved the list to Wiktionary instead of here. No wonder it was all red links. It's late. :) —Pengo 15:05, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
- Wow, that was fast! Thank you! jonkerz ♠talk 18:48, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Publication stats
Was wondering if you can run the script that you are using to generate the top published taxa on a given list. It would be nice to see the most published species in List_of_birds_of_India - actually would like the full list with the number of publications next to them - even if it is only indicative and based on google scholar. I was earlier trying to prioritize them based on reporting rates in the field as on User:Shyamal/todo but sometimes one finds too few published sources (at best only taxonomic descriptions and field identification). Shyamal (talk) 13:38, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Shyamal: Hi.. Thanks for asking. Unfortunately the way I have it set up, I don't have a quick way to make a list which filters for only Indian birds or birds on that list. Next time I start working on it I'll see if I can add it as a feature though. First I'll make a general bird list which you can try to filter. I tried making one of just missing birds before, but they virtually all already had articles (except for a missing redirect or two). —Pengo 04:12, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Alright. Thanks. Shyamal (talk) 07:04, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
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So I finished the top 100 a while back ago; I haven't really edited much since. This time I'm interested in a list of the most written about ant genera and/or genera+species. I intend to use it for importance-tagging of ant-related articles. Is this something you can do? jonkerz ♠talk 19:46, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hey @Jonkerz:, sorry don't have the time to make any new lists at the moment. The list already has all the species I could find in google books, so shrinking it just to genera would look pretty similar anyway. I never tried searching for just genus names without the specific name because I figure the data would be too noisy (e.g. picking up every mention of "Azteca", ant or not).
- I'd recommend just counting how many times genera appear in the list maybe to give an idea of importance? Sorry can't be more helpful, but hope that's useful all the same. —Pengo 08:55, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- No worries and thanks anyways, the list has been very useful so far! jonkerz ♠talk 13:56, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
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What would you do with strobilacea? As you may be aware, there are a number of species epithets on Wikipedia that redirect to a single species, when Wikipedia has multiple articles on species with that epithet. There are some disambiguation pages for epithets, but I'm not interested in working on those myself. I usually redirect the epithets I come across to Wiktionary if there is a Wiktionary entry for them. Wiktionary doesn't have a strobilacea entry yet, and I'm not sure if it would be bad practice to retarget Wikipedia's strobilacea to a non-existent Wiktionary entry. Should I get it deleted? Or can I redirect strobilacea to Wiktionary? Plantdrew (talk) 04:22, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Plantdrew: Hmm, I don't think Wikipedia has a particular policy, but Strobilacea should probably be a disambiguation page. Soft redirects to Wiktionary are usually for verbs and other parts of speech. Have a look at Sativum, Albus, Officinalis, Elegans, Vulgaris for examples, as they are all very common specific epithets. The disambig pages only have a tiny number of the species they're found in though. See catalogueoflife.org for a list of many strobilacea species. —Pengo 10:27, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Not really the answer I wanted to hear, but oh well. I guess I'll throw up a quick dab page with all the articles Wikipedia has. But I don't see myself making the effort to add etymology/translation, or pick through Catalogue of Life for red-links that are worth mentioning. Plantdrew (talk) 15:32, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Plantdrew: Yeah, a wiktionary link box and a list of existing Wikipedia pages is plenty. You could spend a lifetime making and maintaining these kinds of pages by hand. Must have been a Herculean effort for editors to make C. elegans (disambiguation), but really we ought to have thousands of pages like it. And even D. elegans is almost empty by comparison. —Pengo 22:30, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
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In case you haven't noticed the problem yet, List of least concern fishes is in the hidden Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded. That's because {{columns-list}} is being used for virtually all the content, and the amount of content is exceeding the 2MB include size. Looking at the bottom of the article shows that MediaWiki has given up trying to expand the templates—for example, it shows Template:Reflist rather than expanding it. I have fixed a couple of pages like this with a module but I'm not sure much can be done here because the template is very efficient. Perhaps a template exclusively for this function would help because all 222 calls to columns-list are identical, so the template does not need to make decisions about parameters. I saw the fuss which is reflected in the above section and want to emphasize that I am not planning to blunder into the article! I might be able to help, if wanted. Johnuniq (talk) 05:14, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
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- So far, so good. You will see I did an edit at List of least concern fishes which has removed the problem. My workaround uses Module:Biglist but is not fully emulating {{columns-list}}. It works for the colwidth parameter, but the template has several other parameters that I have not bothered to implement. It defaults to colwidth=30em so if wanted that parameter could be omitted. Let me know if a problem arises. Johnuniq (talk) 10:29, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks Johnuniq. Looks good to me and fixes the problem! There's no special reason for the specific 30em width so no problem omitting it or making it default. I note in the Biglist documentation (which you appear to have written) it says the module "is not intended for use in articles". Does that need to be edited/clarified? Thanks again. —Pengo 11:36, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
- Good point. That was true at the time, but I added a couple of functions for use in articles without updating the documentation. I have now fixed the documentation, thanks. Johnuniq (talk) 02:24, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks Johnuniq. Looks good to me and fixes the problem! There's no special reason for the specific 30em width so no problem omitting it or making it default. I note in the Biglist documentation (which you appear to have written) it says the module "is not intended for use in articles". Does that need to be edited/clarified? Thanks again. —Pengo 11:36, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
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If I understand correctly, you expanded the list partly using a bot. Please note that the "connecting term" in the names of botanical infraspecies must not be italicized, so you need to produce links like [[Cycas szechuanensis subsp. fairylakea|''Cycas szechuanensis'' subsp. ''fairylakea'']]
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- Peter coxhead, Good point. I'll fix it. —Pengo 07:52, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
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I see you cite on your page "Syagrus" as an interest of yours. Just want to alert you that I added a qualifier to the main article on "Syagrus," the genus of palm trees. I made the article title "Syagrus (palm)." The reason is, there are at least three things called Syagrus, dealt with to one extent or another in Wikipedia; several links were going wrong, and I went through and fixed those and disambiguated. There are:
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- Why was it written as a "digital" process even though the title is more general?
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- @NewageEd: I created the article over 10 years ago and I don't remember much. From the commit comments, it appears it was based largely on a section from Depth of field. Perhaps there's bits of information gathered from various app websites too, but I'm not sure. In those earlier days of Wikipedia you could get away with creating a more stubby article without too many sources and just letting it grow.
- Looking at the redirects to the page (which it looks like I made most of), other names could have been "Extended depth of field", "Stack focusing", "Extended depth-of-focus", "Extended depth of field images", and "Focus stacked [image]".
- Adding information on an analogue/film process would be great. I only wrote about what I knew, could easily find, or what was my interest at the time—all of which would have pointed to the digital process. My hope when creating a new article is always that it can be improved beyond the scope of my knowledge and research so I wish you all the best in improving it. —Pengo 23:58, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hi, Pengo. I saw that in the RfC on Trypophobia that you were the only user who argued in favor of removing the image which induces Trypophobia. I'm now trying to explore why users otherwise unanimously decided to keep the image. I was wondering if you had any opinions on your gauge of the situation when the RfC occurred in 2018. I'm not sure if your opinion on the issue has changed, but users in the talk page for that article are emphasizing the near-unanimity of that decision. I'm wondering what makes you different in your conclusion from the other 32 users. Thank you for any information. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 17:10, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @IronMaidenRocks: I know someone with serious trypophobia. I can tell you they and similar users were not commenting because they were not going to a page with a heap of images that make them throw up in their mouth. Why 32 other users think that's fine, you'll have to ask them. —Pengo 02:08, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- @IronMaidenRocks: i.e. there's a huge selection bias as the page is inaccessible and actually hostile to people with more serious forms of the condition. It's like running a survey on a page that claims epilepsy doesn't exist, and asking whether we should "censor" flashing images, and the entire survey page flashes rapidly. What do you think will be the result? How much input do you expect from people with photosensitive seizures? I don't know what I said on the RfC—you didn't link it—and I don't know why you're asking, but I don't imagine my views have changed, no. —Pengo 02:29, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Pengo: Thanks for the replies, they were helpful. I'll probably call a new RfC in a week or so, perhaps depending on how the project I asked for assistance/review replies. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 16:06, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- @IronMaidenRocks: Best of luck. —Pengo 22:14, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Can I ask you both why you think all except for one of the users (you, Pengo) who participated were corrupt participants? Half voted to collapse the photo out of concern for sufferers, and some of them went up against those who didn't seem to care for sufferers or thought of the condition as probably false, but you describe everyone except for one as cruel and biased. What gives? I think it's a shame that so many wouldn't even vote to hide the photo, but I don't think most of them were intentionally being cruel. I don't think a new poll will change anything either, but it's okay to try. Acidsetback (talk) 22:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- @IronMaidenRocks: Best of luck. —Pengo 22:14, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Acidsetback: I personally never questioned the other participants' motives, did not call them corrupt, nor assumed bad faith. I was unaware of any connection to 4chan trolling or brigading of votes.
- All I said was the participants were necessarily a biased sample due to the design of the page. Both the discussion and the wikipedia pages leading to it were (and still are) inaccessible and literally hostile to those with the condition being discussed, especially those with more severe reactions, and no attempt was made to seek the opinions of those with the condition, so of course people with the condition, whose opinion should be valued in the decision, are going to be unable or unwilling to participate. I haven't looked back but I believe there were no voices of anyone with the condition, let alone anyone with a severe symptoms, nor any attempt to include their voices.
- There's also a pile-on effect where once a view is established in a forum, dissenters mostly don't bother to respond, which would further discourage anyone from responding if they had got that far.
- I did not call anyone intentionally cruel, although it's not difficult to see how such a conclusion could be reached. Honestly, it's such a stupidly obvious thing to not to show big spiders on Arachnophobia and not to make the background of the Photosensitive epilepsy page strobe different colours. So if someone repeatedly supports vomit-enducing images on Trypophobia, then I can absolutely see why that would could be seen as a deliberately cruel act, but that is not something I actually said. —Pengo 00:10, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- I'll raise this concern sometime, unless you'd like to come to Talk:Trypophobia. I'm now of the opinion that you'll find cooperative users there. One thing I'd wonder is how to get in touch with people who have Trypophobia who might have varied opinions to share. No doubt taking just a few people's opinions would not represent everyone who suffers from the condition. I'm also unaware of Wikipedia's standards on polling a demographic for representation, especially considering this is a conversation dealing with style rather than content. Otherwise, I'm thinking of reaching out to researchers and psychologists who have studied the condition to get their take on the article as a whole, the location of the picture, and if some more appropriate and less shocking picture might be found. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 13:11, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Pengo, here's a link to the poll: here. There were a few people who participated in the poll who have trypophobia and who were very sympathetic toward sufferers. Some who don't have the condition were sympathetic toward sufferers. But IronMaidenRocks says most users voted to keep the photo in the lead "mostly because of concerns about censorship", that you "believe that the RfC decision was made out of bias and cruelty", and that they (IronMaidenRocks) agree with that. IronMaidenRocks says the argument that the photo should remain for its educational value is "downright barbaric." With the way they put it, it was a white male conspiracy theory to keep the photo. IronMaidenRocks also says an ableist bias occurred. That may be so, but it appears there was no such bias for most of the participants. Most didn't argue censorship, and most didn't come from 4chan. These were years-old users voting and the voting discussion appears to have been advertised on Wikipedia, and so that's why it had a large participation. IronMaidenRocks put words in your mouth. Thank you for illuminating your feelings. Acidsetback (talk) 21:32, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Acidsetback: Why did you break your quote, Acidsetback? Is that something I actually said? Did I say that Pengo "seems to believe" or did I say that Pengo "believes" as you quoted me? Because, if you read Pengo's first reply, they used what I see as rather strong language which I interpreted, and I distinctly clarified that the way I said it was my own interpretation. Furthermore, why are you on a user's talk page discussing the subject of Talk:Trypophobia about discussion taking place there? I came here to ask Pengo questions about the discussion and whether they'd like to participate again. There's little that you've said or asked here which couldn't have been posted in that discussion. Nor were you even part of the discussion in either thread before you came here, as far as I can tell. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 11:48, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- There, you said, "I reached out to the one user who disagreed with the RfC decision to keep the image, User:Pengo, and they seem to believe that the RfC decision was made out of bias and cruelty. I agree with that." Why do you think saying "seem to believe" absolves you from giving a certain impression of Pengo's feelings? If you said I seem to believe something I don't, it would still be a mischaracterization. Similarly, is this not why GoneIn60 objected to your characterization of him? Here and here, on two different users' talk pages, you even accuse me of mocking you, others being against you, and then you changed the headings of your reports to say "Users engaging in disruptive/unbecoming behavior in Talk:Trypophobia discussion." I count one user (you) engaging in disruptive/unbecoming behavior at Talk:Trypophobia. I didn't quote everything because I didn't think "seem to believe" was important and communication usually includes summarizing what someone has said, lest you go into TLDR territory. I came to Pengo's talk page because you advertised coming here and gave a certain impression of Pengo's feelings. You also mischaracterized the polling. I wanted to know Pengo's feelings from Pengo's own mouth and I didn't want Pengo left with your inaccurate summary of things. I'm not discussing the topic of trypophobia here on this user's talk page. I'm discussing exactly what you discussed here on this user's talk page. And now it's time to end that and leave this user in peace. Acidsetback (talk) 21:55, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- I won't discuss with you further than to say that there's no way that I could relay someone else's opinions without making my own impression of it. Pengo has not said whether my interpretation was accurate enough, so you are accusing me of something that hasn't happened yet. It looks like you asked Pengo questions in such a way as to paint me in a bad light, a very literal twist on WP:Lawyering. And, before you say it, you and other users have repeatedly implied that my calling attention to your behavior and possible biases is a violation of good faith. These rules exist, in part, for us to compare the behavior of others to the rules, just as much as it is for us to compare it to ourselves. Being in the majority in the discussion doesn't give you the right to police behavior completely at the minority's expense. Or is it that I'm the only one in that discussion capable of bad faith; those self-interpreted rules only apply to people who disagree with you? --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 23:48, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Acidsetback:I said on the Trypophobia talk page that I have stopped discussing this subject until further notice. Don't come find me on other pages. Any further attempt to contact from you outside that page will be considered unwanted contact. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 23:48, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- You've made numerous bad-faith accusations, and you've done it again. Pengo clarified their position by saying they "personally never questioned the other participants' motives, did not call them corrupt, nor assumed bad faith" and that what they "said was the participants were necessarily a biased sample due to the design of the page." That's different than what you said. They also talked about hostility and how the participants were "a biased sample" partly because of that. There does exist hostility in the polling discussion, but it was only among a few. And what Pengo said is still different than your characterization of their feelings. If anyone "lawyered" something, you did by insisting that prefacing some things you've said wasn't characterizing things in the way you characterized them.
- You've also shown that you half-read and half-analyze situations. At two different users' talk pages, you described me as "a user who was previously uninvolved". And now you've said, "Being in the majority in the discussion doesn't give you the right to police behavior completely at the minority's expense." But I was involved before you, and I said, "Removing the image altogether is preferable, but the discussion shows voting was split. About 50/50. There was less agreement to collapse the image or tuck it away at the bottom of the article." Did you miss where I said "removing the image altogether is preferable"? And now you want to talk about self-interpreted rules only being followed by a user when the user agrees with them? That's you, is it not? I didn't express "indignance several times", as you claimed on two different users' talk pages. I expressed bafflement that you'd characterize all voters except one as cruel when half of them voted to collapse the image so that sufferers wouldn't see it unless they chose to see it, and when some who didn't vote to collapse it expressed sympathy and empathy.
- I don't want to come find you anywhere. I said at Talk:Trypophobia that I'm not going to follow you to these pages you dinged me at with an alert. But you don't get to say that I can't respond on another user's talk page or on an article's talk page, especially when you've dinged me in an alert to the talk page and have mischaracterized and insulted my character. You seem to have a problem that includes trying to police who participates and what they can say. Leave Pengo in peace. I'm not going to clutter this user's talk page anymore. Acidsetback (talk) 03:10, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
- There, you said, "I reached out to the one user who disagreed with the RfC decision to keep the image, User:Pengo, and they seem to believe that the RfC decision was made out of bias and cruelty. I agree with that." Why do you think saying "seem to believe" absolves you from giving a certain impression of Pengo's feelings? If you said I seem to believe something I don't, it would still be a mischaracterization. Similarly, is this not why GoneIn60 objected to your characterization of him? Here and here, on two different users' talk pages, you even accuse me of mocking you, others being against you, and then you changed the headings of your reports to say "Users engaging in disruptive/unbecoming behavior in Talk:Trypophobia discussion." I count one user (you) engaging in disruptive/unbecoming behavior at Talk:Trypophobia. I didn't quote everything because I didn't think "seem to believe" was important and communication usually includes summarizing what someone has said, lest you go into TLDR territory. I came to Pengo's talk page because you advertised coming here and gave a certain impression of Pengo's feelings. You also mischaracterized the polling. I wanted to know Pengo's feelings from Pengo's own mouth and I didn't want Pengo left with your inaccurate summary of things. I'm not discussing the topic of trypophobia here on this user's talk page. I'm discussing exactly what you discussed here on this user's talk page. And now it's time to end that and leave this user in peace. Acidsetback (talk) 21:55, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Acidsetback: Why did you break your quote, Acidsetback? Is that something I actually said? Did I say that Pengo "seems to believe" or did I say that Pengo "believes" as you quoted me? Because, if you read Pengo's first reply, they used what I see as rather strong language which I interpreted, and I distinctly clarified that the way I said it was my own interpretation. Furthermore, why are you on a user's talk page discussing the subject of Talk:Trypophobia about discussion taking place there? I came here to ask Pengo questions about the discussion and whether they'd like to participate again. There's little that you've said or asked here which couldn't have been posted in that discussion. Nor were you even part of the discussion in either thread before you came here, as far as I can tell. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 11:48, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Pengo, here's a link to the poll: here. There were a few people who participated in the poll who have trypophobia and who were very sympathetic toward sufferers. Some who don't have the condition were sympathetic toward sufferers. But IronMaidenRocks says most users voted to keep the photo in the lead "mostly because of concerns about censorship", that you "believe that the RfC decision was made out of bias and cruelty", and that they (IronMaidenRocks) agree with that. IronMaidenRocks says the argument that the photo should remain for its educational value is "downright barbaric." With the way they put it, it was a white male conspiracy theory to keep the photo. IronMaidenRocks also says an ableist bias occurred. That may be so, but it appears there was no such bias for most of the participants. Most didn't argue censorship, and most didn't come from 4chan. These were years-old users voting and the voting discussion appears to have been advertised on Wikipedia, and so that's why it had a large participation. IronMaidenRocks put words in your mouth. Thank you for illuminating your feelings. Acidsetback (talk) 21:32, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- If you and other users are unable to help I'll probably just stop pursuing the subject until I hear back from expert opinions, and maybe that can inform some new user consensus. I'm spending hours replying to new complaints against my inquiry from the same users, and I don't think they're willing to discuss the subject with an open mind. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 11:59, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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