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Recent changes
Editors will notice that there have been some changes to the background color of text in the diff view, and the color of the byte-change numbers, last week. These changes are intended to make text more readable in both light mode and dark mode, and are part of a larger effort to increase accessibility. You can share your comments or questions on the project talkpage. [1]
The text colors that are used for visited-links, hovered-links, and active-links, were also slightly changed last week to improve their accessibility in both light mode and dark mode. [2]
Problems
You can copy permanent links to talk page comments by clicking on a comment's timestamp. This feature did not always work when the topic title was very long and the link was used as a wikitext link. This has been fixed. Thanks to Lofhi for submitting the bug. [3]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 June. It will be on all wikis from 27 June (calendar). [4][5]
Starting 26 June, all talk pages messages' timestamps will become a link at English Wikipedia, making this feature available for you to use at all wikis. This link is a permanent link to the comment. It allows users to find the comment they were linked to, even if this comment has since been moved elsewhere. You can read more about this feature on Diff or on Mediawiki.org. [6]
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Do you have evidence that she is a Vietnamese national? Her ethnicity is vietnamese, but she is born in Australia and lived there, so she is of an Australian citzenship. The Korean entertainment article is misinformation and has no evidence that Hanni has ever received Vietnam Citzenship or a national dual wise. Just because she is ethnically vietnamese. I should know, since I'm a Australian vietnamese and know that she can't possiblity be dual citzenship. I have emailed the author of that Korean article (which is probably translated from Korean) so it might have translation issues. Lightningwhitefox (talk) 11:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Well you have have no sources for evidence that she is dual national or discuss it in the page's talk. Ofcourse I'm new to wikipedia so I don't know all your wikipedia rules. But I just know that you are putting false information on her page. Lightningwhitefox (talk) 12:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Why not discuss this with the talk page before "rolling" back my changes and not giving me evidence that she has dual nationality. An opinion piece from a Korean entertainment site doesn't prove that she has dual nationality.
Also original research or common law in Australia? The one thing I can prove is that she Australian, but none of you can prove that she has dual nationality or citzen. Just because she's ethnicity is Vietnamese. Most vietnamese families who migrated to Australia, United states were refugees. Most first generation immigrates have children who were born in that country and don't have any national or citzenship with the country the parents were born. Its like saying, just because I'm vietnamese, I'm also a Vietnamese national? doesn't make sense. Lightningwhitefox (talk) 12:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
@Lightningwhitefox It seems you haven't thoroughly read through the policies on WP:BURDEN, WP:VERIFY, and WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH that I linked above. Regardless of whether you are new or a veteran on English Wikipedia, it's essential to strictly adhere to its policies and guidelines when informed. According to VERIFY, quote "In the English Wikipedia, verifiability means people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than editors' beliefs, opinions, experiences, or previously unpublished ideas or information. Even if you are sure something is true, it must have been previously published in a reliable source before you can add it". The Korea Times is not the only source stating the subject as dual nationality; there are multiple reliable sources of similar reputability with the same information. However, per WP:CITEBOMB, we (the editors that contributed to Hanni (singer)) don't include all of them here. Therefore, the statement you made "Well you have have no sources for evidence that she is dual national" contradicts the VERIFY policy. Additionally, your rationale, "I should know, since I'm a Australian vietnamese and know that she can't possiblity be dual citzenship" falls under ORIGINAL RESEARCH. As stated in ORIGINAL RESEARCH, quote "On Wikipedia, original research means material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published source exists ... To demonstrate that you are not adding original research, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article and directly support the material being presented". As mentioned earlier, you failed to provide such sources in all 6RR violations' revert, including in the two three AN/3RR reports, and talk page discussion that was created after violating 3RR, other than providing a failed verification PDF document that does not directly support your rationale i.e. on Australia forbiding dual national. —Paper9oll(🔔 • 📝)12:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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Create a Site for TDS3
Hello! I just found out that there's no Wiki page for NCT DREAM's 3rd Tour which is THE DREAM SHOW 3: DREAM( )SCAPE. Can you please make it? I want to see their own Wiki page. Thank you so much! 112.204.194.50 (talk) 01:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Over the next three weeks, dark mode will become available for all users, both logged-in and logged-out, starting with the mobile web version. This fulfils one of the top-requested community wishes, and improves low-contrast reading and usage in low-light settings. As part of these changes, dark mode will also work on User-pages and Portals. There is more information in the latest Web team update. [7]
Logged-in users can now set global preferences for the text-size and dark-mode, thanks to a combined effort across Foundation teams. This allows Wikimedians using multiple wikis to set up a consistent reading experience easily, for example by switching between light and dark mode only once for all wikis. [8]
If you use a very old web browser some features might not work on the Wikimedia wikis. This affects Internet Explorer 11 and versions of Chrome, Firefox and Safari older than 2016. This change makes it possible to use new CSS features and to send less code to all readers. [9][10]
Wikipedia Admins can customize local wiki configuration options easily using Community Configuration. Community Configuration was created to allow communities to customize how some features work, because each language wiki has unique needs. At the moment, admins can configure Growth features on their home wikis, in order to better recruit and retain new editors. More options will be provided in the coming months. [11]
Editors interested in language issues that are related to Unicode standards, can now discuss those topics at a new conversation space in MediaWiki.org. The Wikimedia Foundation is now a member of the Unicode Consortium, and the coordination group can collaboratively review the issues discussed and, where appropriate, bring them to the attention of the Unicode Consortium.
Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
The CampaignEvents extension is now available on Meta-wiki, Igbo Wikipedia, and Swahili Wikipedia, and can be requested on your wiki. This extension helps in managing and making events more visible, giving Event organizers the ability to use tools like the Event registration tool. To learn more about the deployment status and how to request this extension for your wiki, visit the CampaignEvents page on Meta-wiki.
Editors using the iOS Wikipedia app who have more than 50 edits can now use the Add an Image feature. This feature presents opportunities for small but useful contributions to Wikipedia.
A problem with the color of the talkpage tabs always showing as blue, even for non-existent pages which should have been red, affecting the Vector 2022 skin, has been fixed.
Future changes
The Trust and Safety Product team wants to introduce temporary accounts with as little disruption to tools and workflows as possible. Volunteer developers, including gadget and user-script maintainers, are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. The team has created documentation explaining how to do the update. Learn more.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Wikimedia developers can now officially continue to use both Gerrit and GitLab, due to a June 24 decision by the Wikimedia Foundation to support software development on both platforms. Gerrit and GitLab are both code repositories used by developers to write, review, and deploy the software code that supports the MediaWiki software that the wiki projects are built on, as well as the tools used by editors to create and improve content. This decision will safeguard the productivity of our developers and prevent problems in code review from affecting our users. More details are available in the Migration status page.
The Wikimedia Foundation seeks applicants for the Product and Technology Advisory Council (PTAC). This group will bring technical contributors and Wikimedia Foundation together to co-define a more resilient, future-proof technological platform. Council members will evaluate and consult on the movement's product and technical activities, so that we develop multi-generational projects. We are looking for a range of technical contributors across the globe, from a variety of Wikimedia projects. Please apply here by August 10.
Editors with rollback user-rights who use the Wikipedia App for Android can use the new Edit Patrol features. These features include a new feed of Recent Changes, related links such as Undo and Rollback, and the ability to create and save a personal library of user talk messages to use while patrolling. If your wiki wants to make these features available to users who do not have rollback rights but have reached a certain edit threshold, you can contact the team. You can read more about this project on Diff blog.
Next week, functionaries, volunteers maintaining tools, and software development teams are invited to test the temporary accounts feature on testwiki. Temporary accounts is a feature that will help improve privacy on the wikis. No further temporary account deployments are scheduled yet. Please share your opinions and questions on the project talk page. [14]
Editors who upload files cross-wiki, or teach other people how to do so, may wish to join a Wikimedia Commons discussion. The Commons community is discussing limiting who can upload files through the cross-wiki upload/Upload dialog feature to users auto-confirmed on Wikimedia Commons. This is due to the large amount of copyright violations uploaded this way. There is a short summary at Commons:Cross-wiki upload and discussion at Commons:Village Pump.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature News
Stewards can now globally block accounts. Before the change only IP addresses and IP ranges could be blocked globally. Global account blocks are useful when the blocked user should not be logged out. Global locks (a similar tool logging the user out of their account) are unaffected by this change. The new global account block feature is related to the Temporary Accounts project, which is a new type of user account that replaces IP addresses of unregistered editors that are no longer made public.
Later this week, Wikimedia site users will notice that the Interface of FlaggedRevs (also known as "Pending Changes") is improved and consistent with the rest of the MediaWiki interface and Wikimedia's design system. The FlaggedRevs interface experience on mobile and Minerva skin was inconsistent before it was fixed and ported to Codex by the WMF Growth team and some volunteers. [15]
Wikimedia site users can now submit account vanishing requests via GlobalVanishRequest. This feature is used when a contributor wishes to stop editing forever. It helps you hide your past association and edit to protect your privacy. Once processed, the account will be locked and renamed. [16]
Have you tried monitoring and addressing vandalism in Wikipedia using your phone? A Diff blog post on Patrolling features in the Mobile App highlights some of the new capabilities of the feature, including swiping through a feed of recent changes and a personal library of user talk messages for use when patrolling from your phone.
Wikimedia contributors and GLAM (galleries, libraries, archives, and museums) organisations can now learn and measure the impact Wikimedia Commons is having towards creating quality encyclopedic content using the Commons Impact Metrics analytics dashboard. The dashboard offers organizations analytics on things like monthly edits in a category, the most viewed files, and which Wikimedia articles are using Commons images. As a result of these new data dumps, GLAM organisation can more reliably measure their return on investment for programs bringing content into the digital Commons. [17]
Project Updates
Come share your ideas for improving the wikis on the newly reopened Community Wishlist. The Community Wishlist is Wikimedia’s forum for volunteers to share ideas (called wishes) to improve how the wikis work. The new version of the wishlist is always open, works with both wikitext and Visual Editor, and allows wishes in any language.
Learn more
Have you ever wondered how Wikimedia software works across over 300 languages? This is 253 languages more than the Google Chrome interface, and it's no accident. The Language and Product Localization Team at the Wikimedia Foundation supports your work by adapting all the tools and interfaces in the MediaWiki software so that contributors in our movement who translate pages and strings can translate them and have the sites in all languages. Read more about the team and their upcoming work on Diff.
How can Wikimedia build innovative and experimental products while maintaining such heavily used websites? A recent blog post by WMF staff Johan Jönsson highlights the work of the WMF Future Audience initiative, where the goal is not to build polished products but test out new ideas, such as a ChatGPT plugin and Add a Fact, to help take Wikimedia into the future.
Hi! I've been working on a draft you created at Draft:Supersonic (single album), and I think it's ready to move to the main page. Now, I can't move it because there's something already there (the redirect to Fromis 9's article) and I can see that you have marked the draft as not afc. So, I wanted to ask you what's the next step from here? Orangesclub (talk) 06:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
@Orangesclub Too soon imo and also failing WP:NALBUM at this point of time, lets wait till 1 week before release. However, should you wish it to be earlier, I can still move it to mainspace for you. —Paper9oll(🔔 • 📝)10:21, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
Editors using the Visual Editor in languages that use non-Latin characters for numbers, such as Hindi, Manipuri and Eastern Arabic, may notice some changes in the formatting of reference numbers. This is a side effect of preparing a new sub-referencing feature, and will also allow fixing some general numbering issues in Visual Editor. If you notice any related problems on your wiki, please share details at the project talkpage.
Bugs status
Some logged-in editors were briefly unable to edit or load pages last week. These errors were mainly due to the addition of new linter rules which led to caching problems. Fixes have been applied and investigations are continuing.
Editors can use the IP Information tool to get information about IP addresses. This tool is available as a Beta Feature in your preferences. The tool was not available for a few days last week, but is now working again. Thank you to Shizhao for filing the bug report. You can read about that, and 28 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Project updates
There are new features and improvements to Phabricator from the Release Engineering and Collaboration Services teams, and some volunteers, including: the search systems, the new task creation system, the login systems, the translation setup which has resulted in support for more languages (thanks to Pppery), and fixes for many edge-case errors. You can read details about these and other improvements in this summary.
There is an update on the Charts project. The team has decided which visualization library to use, which chart types to start focusing on, and where to store chart definitions.
One new wiki has been created: a Wikivoyage in Czech (voy:cs:) [18]
Hello! I came across this new article, Gyubin for said artist but as far as I know should have been declined and remained as a draft. Sorry, I have close to zero knowledge with respect to the article creation process, so I'm not sure about how to proceed with that and hope you'd help to act on it. I'm not sure who else to seek either. Just for reference, I found Draft:Gyubin which submission was previous declined, and Draft:Park Gyu-bin which is actually the better draft (though without any references etc. as of now). Thank you! Chyx1095 (talk) 12:46, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Hey there, welcome to the 25th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 1 March 2024. We've got a ton of wonderful editors taking back their pitchforks today. Don't worry, for they come in peace, to forcibly fix and extend existing scripts you use with sheer passion. There's so many, them forks have got what's basically their own column now! gift us with some rows before it's too late Aaron Liu (talk) 04:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
An easily configurable script to add a link to the #p-vector-user-menu-overflow portlet with a name, target, and icon. This one should be a relatively easier one. I would do it myself, but I'm too busy rotting away on Celeste (video game).
After the ＲＩＩＪ update, Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin has a dismiss button that allows you to mark an item as read in one click and cycle to the next Watchlist item.
Lordseriouspig/StatusChangerImproved is just like Enterprisey's script, except you select your status from a dropdown instead of cycling through them with a button. The WMF operates out of car-centric infrastructure anyway. Shame!
Newly maintained scripts
Aaron Liu has created Duplinks from Evad37/duplinks-alt; his fork adds a config variable to automatically highlight duplicate links on the loading of any page where the portlet link would've appeared.
Tired of staring at a bunch of filtering text and waiting for darn filter logs to load? Msz2001/AbuseFilter analyzer can parse abuse filters into a visual syntax tree and evaluate locally on-demand!
Polygnotus/DuplicateReferences finds references with the same link and displays the number of them along with a button to add the {{duplicated citations}} tag under the references section. Being lazy has never been easier!
fastest gun on the net Ponor/really-quick-block really quick add to contribution lists three buttons awesome
Hybe Labels gave them a korean name when they released their music video title Debut. I'm sure it can be allowed to be placed on their wikipage since it's their official korean name even though they are based in the states. 122.55.235.123 (talk) 07:49, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
@122.55.235.123 As mentioned, it's not required as they don't promote in South Korea itself, this is akin to suggesting that we should add the official Korean name to every article regardless of whether the subject is marketing or promoting in South Korea, simply because of existing ties or available information. For example, we don't add a group's official Japanese name unless they've released Japanese-language recordings, and the same reasoning applies here. Read on MOS:LEADCLUTTER and WP:VNOT. —Paper9oll(🔔 • 📝)10:35, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi! My draft was declined and I made many edits to it afterwards. I asked at the tea house, but editor there do not feel confident reviewing it. I am looking for someone familiar with k-pop. You made edits to the page about the song with individual made, so I decided to ask you to review it. His name is spelled wrong at the page you edited called Fours seasons- about their song. Draft:Afsheen (musician) I do not know his age, but added all the sources I could find on google. As someone who listen to this music, I really wanted to make this article. I have no idea what else I can add. J2009j (talk) 23:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Yup, I did. I tried to make a lot of improvements. Most editors who are active, are not sure about it, as they are not familiar with this type of music. I only have their comments they think it is fine, but they would like someone else to take a look. I saw you editing page about the song of this individual so it seems you have some knowledge of k-pop. In WP:NMUSIC it is producer a lot of times, and also singer. J2009j (talk) 00:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
@J2009j I appreciate your understanding of the situation. Unfortunately, I've decided not to review the AfC submission. Please wait for the next available reviewer to review the submission. Rest assured, all AfC reviewers are experienced in assessing article submissions. If your draft is still declined, you may find helpful guidance at the WP:TEAHOUSE or the Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Regards, —Paper9oll(🔔 • 📝)01:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
thank you. I am afraid that nobody is going to reviewed it because it was declined many times. Editors do not scroll down to see the changes. J2009j (talk) 05:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-32
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
Two new parser functions will be available this week: {{#dir}} and {{#bcp47}}. These will reduce the need for Template:Dir and Template:BCP47 on Commons and allow us to drop 100 million rows from the "what links here" database. Editors at any wiki that use these templates, can help by replacing the templates with these new functions. The templates at Commons will be updated during the Hackathon at Wikimania. [19][20]
Communities can request the activation of the visual editor on entire namespaces where discussions sometimes happen (for instance Wikipedia: or Wikisource: namespaces) if they understand the known limitations. For discussions, users can already use DiscussionTools in these namespaces.
The tracking category "Pages using Timeline" has been renamed to "Pages using the EasyTimeline extension" in TranslateWiki. Wikis that have created the category locally should rename their local creation to match.
Project updates
Editors who help to organize WikiProjects and similar on-wiki collaborations, are invited to share ideas and examples of successful collaborations with the Campaigns and Programs teams. You can fill out a brief survey or share your thoughts on the talkpage. The teams are particularly looking for details about successful collaborations on non-English wikis.
The new parser is being rolled out on Wikivoyage wikis over the next few months. The English Wikivoyage and Hebrew Wikivoyage were switched to Parsoid last week. For more information, see Parsoid/Parser Unification.
The latest quarterly Language and Internationalization newsletter is available. It includes: New design previews for Translatable pages; Updates about MinT for Wiki Readers; the release of Translation dumps; and more.
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Hello, in this Ive edit you removed Kpop from "Kpop girl group" phrase. I really do not understand why. Aren't they a Kpop group by every possible angle? From production to distribution to songs? And what do you mean with "follows their status quo"? Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 14:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
I see that you've reverted my edit on Illit as well, under reasoning that the addition of Kpop in the lead is "not an improvement". In this case Kpop is not present at all in the lead. Which is exceptionally strange. Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 14:57, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi Cinemaandpolitics, changing from South Korean girl group or South Korean boy band or South Korean singer or South Korean rapper or South Korean musician to South Korean K-pop girl group or South Korean K-pop boy band or South Korean K-pop singer or South Korean K-pop rapper or South Korean K-pop musician is inconsistent with other high-quality BLP articles, including FA-class (e.g., BTS) or GA-class (e.g., Blackpink). In which, it's also not the observed status quo. I'm not suggesting that "K-pop" shouldn't be included in the lead, it should be used in a different part of the lead, when summarizing on their musical style or genre coverage, etc, rather than the opening sentence. —Paper9oll(🔔 • 📝)15:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.
I just wanted to update her photo. Sorry for the inconvenience. By the way, the current photo is from 2023, so it would be great if you could change it to one from 2024. Please check her Instagram. 112.175.151.242 (talk) 08:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
@Btspurplegalaxy If you have potential evidence, including behaviour similarities, can consider logging to WP:SPI with CheckUser option checked/enabled. Do let me know if you required any further assistance, as of now, without knowing who is sockmaster, I can't really dig any further. —Paper9oll(🔔 • 📝)08:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
I’m unsure if this would constitute strong evidence, but I suspect that Cinemaandpolitics and Symphidius might be the same person. It seems unusual that Symphidius immediately joined the NewJeans conservation without making any edits to other articles. Typically, new editors, being beginners, aren't familiar with the intricacies of Wikipedia right away. Btspurplegalaxy💬🖊️08:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
@Btspurplegalaxy Digging through, I suspected that the latter might be 2601:600:967F:88DC:C86D:F38D:33A9:7AC3 hence why it may looks as if they just suddenly join the NewJeans-related discussion. In terms of behaviour similarities, both are similarly very focused with the lead section hence why it may looks suspicious. Lets observe further for now, based on my experience with SPI's reporting, now isn't the time to report yet if the direction we're looking for is blocking and requesting for CheckUser checking. —Paper9oll(🔔 • 📝)09:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Alright, we’ll keep an eye on them until then. I usually have a good sense about socks. If there are no changes in Symphidius's edits over the next 2 to 4 weeks, it should confirm our suspicions. Btspurplegalaxy💬🖊️09:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-33
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Stewards can now specify if global blocks should prevent account creation. Before this change by the Trust and Safety Product Team, all global blocks would prevent account creation. This will allow stewards to reduce the unintended side-effects of global blocks on IP addresses.
@Btspurplegalaxy Given the public nature of user talk pages, such are not uncommon. There is nothing really to even hide about otherwise I would have blanked it instead of waiting for the bot to archive. While I understand the concern, I will abstrain from commenting any further to ensure strategic ambiguity and intelligence control. —Paper9oll(🔔 • 📝)10:20, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi Chyx1095, I will take a closer look at the individual sources when I have some free time. In the meantime, you may want to rectify the multiple WP:CITEBOMB violations found in the sections on Early Life and Education, Career, Public Image, and Endorsements. —Paper9oll(🔔 • 📝)17:05, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
Editors who want to re-use references but with different details such as page numbers, will be able to do so by the end of 2024, using a new sub-referencing feature. You can read more about the project and how to test the prototype.
Editors using tracking categories to identify which pages use specific extensions may notice that six of the categories have been renamed to make them more easily understood and consistent. These categories are automatically added to pages that use specialized MediaWiki extensions. The affected names are for: DynamicPageList, Kartographer, Phonos, RSS, Score, WikiHiero. Wikis that have created the category locally should rename their local creation to match. Thanks to Pppery for these improvements. [24]
Technical volunteers who edit modules and want to get a list of the categories used on a page, can now do so using the categories property of mw.title objects. This enables wikis to configure workflows such as category-specific edit notices. Thanks to SD001 for these improvements. [25][26]
Bugs status
Your help is needed to check if any pages need to be moved or deleted. A maintenance script was run to clean up unreachable pages (due to Unicode issues or introduction of new namespaces/namespace aliases). The script tried to find appropriate names for the pages (e.g. by following the Unicode changes or by moving pages whose titles on Wikipedia start with Talk:WP: so that their titles start with Wikipedia talk:), but it may have failed for some pages, and moved them to Special:PrefixIndex/T195546/ instead. Your community should check if any pages are listed there, and move them to the correct titles, or delete them if they are no longer needed. A full log (including pages for which appropriate names could be found) is available in phab:P67388.
Editors who volunteer as mentors to newcomers on their wiki are once again able to access lists of potential mentees who they can connect with to offer help and guidance. This functionality was restored thanks to a bug fix. Thank you to Mbch331 for filing the bug report. You can read about that, and 18 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Project updates
The application deadline for the Product & Technology Advisory Council (PTAC) has been extended to September 16. Members will help by providing advice to Foundation Product and Technology leadership on short and long term plans, on complex strategic problems, and help to get feedback from more contributors and technical communities. Selected members should expect to spend roughly 5 hours per month for the Council, during the one year pilot. Please consider applying, and spread the word to volunteers you think would make a positive contribution to the committee.
Learn more
The 2024 Coolest Tool Awards were awarded at Wikimania, in seven categories. For example, one award went to the ISA Tool, used for adding structured data to files on Commons, which was recently improved during the Wiki Mentor Africa Hackathon. You can see video demonstrations of each tool at the awards page. Congratulations to this year's recipients, and thank you to all tool creators and maintainers.
The latest Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin is available, and includes some highlights from Wikimania, an upcoming Language community meeting, and other news from the movement.
Hi @Paper9oll, can you take a look at the latest edits at Bibi (singer)? Is listing of her M/Vs, with YouTube references (mostly for director credits) "a link dump. these are not "references", and they serve only to fluff up the article"? I probably should have put this on the talk page, but this seems like it can be dealt with in a single action since it is the same for all other K-pop artists. Thank you for your help/advice! (And also thank you for reviewing for Haerin as previously requested) Chyx1095 (talk) 16:11, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
@Chyx1095 Looks like a content/what about dispute, you may want to resolve this on Talk:Bibi (singer) with the involved parties instead given that you're dealing with an admin here hence I won't recommended that you revert any further if you intended to do so until there is consensus between the involved parties. Looking through the older revision, I could see why it's considered as "a link dump. these are not 'references'", as the content is not supported majoritively, if not none, by secondaryreliable sources that is independent of the subject hence giving the impression of a "backdoor watch the music video here" in the disguise of references. —Paper9oll(🔔 • 📝)16:39, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Chyx1095, this is NOT all the same for all other K-pop articles, and even if it were, that doesn't make it acceptable. We all know that K-pop articles tend toward inflation, and that's what that list does. It's Wikia material. Please do not think that Wikipedia is a repository for every link and every item that fans think relevant: it's an encyclopedia, whose content should be based on secondary sourcing. BTW my admin status isn't really relevant here, but I think my experience is. Drmies (talk) 01:28, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
@Drmies I admit I'm not well-versed in all the WP policies/guidelines and definitely not as experienced, but I do understand the need for secondary sourcing. My point here isn't about the links there, but the list of music videos which are present for most, if not all, K-pop artists and definitely not something I think relevant. I'm just confused as to why only Bibi's suddenly got removed. By extension, if secondary sourcing is required, shouldn't a lot of her Discography which do not have any citations essentially be removed as well? Chyx1095 (talk) 01:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
I don't know about "suddenly", Chyx1095--I don't keep a calendar of when to look at what article. Sure albums really need secondary sourcing as well (like books in articles for academics), but the idea is that albums (and books) are of a magnitude that one can assume that they themselves are worth mentioning, unlike smaller things like a video or an article or a poem. Because when you list everything that someone is associated with or has been released, you're writing resumes and you're simply compiling lists, and Paper9oll's comment (about the backdoor) is really valid here. When I write articles I will not include things like books or albums or whatever that I cannot give proper (secondary) sourcing for, but that's not something that I am going to remove in an article like this. But a list of, essentially, YouTube links, yes I do NOT believe that should stand. And again--in K-pop we see a constant pushing of those boundaries; some K-pop artist articles now list every single song that the artist has a writing credit for (or co-writing--easily done), which offers yet another avenue for adding yet another list of items. We surely don't do that in most articles, and by the same token we don't list all the videos in regular biographies on musical artists. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi @Drmies, I understand where you're coming from. I said "suddenly" because the whole entire section that was there for months was simply deleted without any discussion or consensus, or without any notice that the references should be replaced with reliable secondary sources. I agree with your point that a list of YouTube links shouldn't stand and with Paper9oll's comment (about the backdoor), but is it really alright to blank the entire section on that basis with just a short summary, when lists of music videos are present for most other K-pop artists and groups? If someone else like a new user or an IP user with little edit count does it, wouldn't it be immediately reverted for vandalism/blanking or whatever the right term is? Chyx1095 (talk) 16:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Hmm maybe, but I believe the argument is valid. I don't know how long that content had stood, and that's not really interesting to me. I came to the article because I saw on Recent changes that someone had removed a bunch of content, so I checked that edit, then looked at the article and got to work. I'm not going to make it my life's mission to remove every link dump on Wikipedia: life is too short for that, and it's not fun. I just made this edit, and the place is full of articles with those silly flags used incorrectly (according to the MOS), but I'm not about to go through all boxing articles. But here is another thing that I think matters. For those flags, they are a distraction to the reader, and that's why the MOS has a section on it. These video links, that long table, they not only inflate the article, but they also distract from the other, relevant material. We're here for the reader--the reader does not really need such a list because we have Google, with a "Videos" tab. What we need is properly verified material that isn't otherwise accessible, as readable, properly verified prose. Does that make sense? I think about our mission, and about the reader. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:55, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
"What we need is properly verified material that isn't otherwise accessible, as readable, properly verified prose." Yes thank you, this is very well put and I understand better now. But once again, shouldn't such removal of a big chunk of content (in fact two sections - Artistry and Videography) require consensus? Based on my observations (at least on K-pop articles), such big removals have some sort of discussion or consensus before they're actually removed, regardless whether the editor believes it's valid or not. Chyx1095 (talk) 17:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
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Hello. My edits to Sul Kyung-gu’s article have been reverted as soon as published despite me only correcting it. I know the reasoning is because it must match the articles name but I do not have permission to change that, and if you do, please do. Sul is his family name, spelled out by him, confirming it’s even on his passport, and his agency, media outlets and streaming services all use Sul. Sol is an outdated version of the name that misleads people. I have also seen Im Siwan’s page not match the title for he’s referred as Yim despite the title being Im, so I didn’t understand the decision of reverting my edits here. Thank you and I hope this can get resolved. Ku9979 (talk) 11:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
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