User talk:Nichalp/Archive26

• A very happy new year to you dear Nick. I hope this new year brings lots of joys and happiness to you. We look forward to seeing a lot more FA's from you :) . Have a fun year.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 15:22, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Hello, I wish you and your family a prosperous and happy New Year 2006! We shall surely remain actively involved in the Project Wikipedia. --Bhadani 16:21, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Here's wishing you a very happy new year . May the new year bring you happiness, peace and prosperity. sumal 08:36, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the wishes, Nichalp. Wish you and your family the same. regards, --Pamri • Talk 07:43, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And Wish You All the Best for 2006. --ΜιĿːtalk 08:16, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And a happy new year from me too, jguk 11:12, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And me too :-) Tintin Talk 14:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I see you're a member on the Maps WikiProject and wondered if you would be able to make a map highlighting the Punjabi speaking areas of India/Pakistan? Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 14:05, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, don't forget to include Delhi, which has a real significant Punjabi population, and has Punjabi as one of the four official languagess (others being Hindi, English and Urdu.) deeptrivia (talk) 18:12, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've uploaded an example map to Image:Punjabi.Speaking.Areas.Draft.jpg. Could you make a map that somehow shows the historic Punjab, split into the current states and provinces? Then label Pakistani/Indian Punjab as being predominantly Punjabi speaking, as with the border areas between HP/Haryana/Rajastan. The rest of HP/Haryana/Rajastan should be listed as Punjabi + local tongue (Hindi mostly). This should carry on down to Delhi which should be listed as having a significant numbers of Punjabi speakers. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 18:57, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What's the main language of Jammu region? Does it have significant Punjabi speakers too? deeptrivia (talk) 19:02, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's where it gets tricky. J&K has has about 1.2 million "Punjabi" speakers [1]. However in this I'm counting Lahnda and Dogri, although India now recognises Dogri as a separate language. This link [2] lists Siraiki and Hindko which are considered as dialects by most Punjabis, but not necessarily the people that speak the 'dialect'. Another point to mention is that Western Punjabi or Lahnda does not begin at the Pakistani border. Lahore itself speaks Majhi which is a central Punjabi dialect also spoken by Amritsar. It's a complex picture, and most probably a complex map! :D [3] also helps. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 19:31, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

HR, HP and Delhi were all a part of undivided British Punjab. Here are pictures of the Indian states: [4] and here are Pakistani provinces: [5]. Is that okay? Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 10:55, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone help me understand the relevance of the Hindi translation of Taj Mahal? The words appear not be Hindi in origin; typically the name is thought to be a corruption of Persian (which I realize has a relationship to Hindi, but also to Urdu, etc.). Why Hindi in particular? Why not Urdu or Persian? Why a translation at all? --Nemonoman 15:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, we try to write the localised version of subject in all articles. I´ve already requested an Urdu version too. You seem to be new to wikipedia. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:03, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This procedure has not been followed in any of the articles I have worked on. Taj article has been up with my input for more than 3 years and it's the first time Hindi name has entered the picture. So please don't be too surprised by my question. If it is best practice, you might want to consider creating similar entries in Agra, India, Belgaum, Ahmednagar, Kuldabad, Jama Masjid, Delhi, Humayun's Tomb, Itmad-Ud-Daulah's Tomb, Pratapghad, Pataleshwar, Ellora Caves, and Deccan: I have made edits to all these, and none have local language entries. "New to wikipedia" covers a lot of territory. I've been editing for 3 years before creating username Nemonoman. In any case, I have only been active for about a year. I'm certainly no expert. --Nemonoman 17:58, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let me put it this way: Lots of Indian articles to write, too few permanent Indian editors. I added the Hindi (& Urdu solocited) text on an urgent basis as you planned to get it up to featured status. See Mumbai, Chennai, Bangalore: All these have the local names. =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:03, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I hope you don't take my questions as criticism. I am entirely capable of making criticisms as statements. Questions are questions. I appreciate the answer. --Nemonoman 18:06, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Have you any ideas as to which images would be most useful for the current cricket FAC? Cheers, and happy new year! [[Sam Korn]] 15:53, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Nichalp, please take a look at this image pointing the location of Agra. Shouldn't this be replaced with one that is consistent with other such images on locations of Indian cities? The location doesn't look correct anyway. deeptrivia (talk) 18:16, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at this. Not very professional, but a good substitute, I think. deeptrivia (talk) 06:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message. I too would like to see WW2 featured. However my standards are very high, partly because I am a perfectionist and through my experience in getting article featured. You'd need to cut text and get a copyedit done before it can get featured. Anyways, getting this article featured with my support vote should your New Year's resolution. :) Wish you a happy new year 06. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:10, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whoa, it's not my article :) I'll leave that to someone working on it. Thanks for the message! εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 22:52, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Surprise. : ) εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 04:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Nichalp, did you notice the results of the poll on the naming of the Hindu-Arabic numerals article? User:RN moved the article to Arabic numerals despite 28 votes favoring the title "Hindu-Arabic numerals" and only 17 favoring "Arabic numerals." He argues that if we don't count voters with less that 150 (or sth like that) edits, only 56% voters "support changing the title to Hindu-Arabic numerals", while at least 60% support votes are required. However, it was agreed in the beginning of the vote that the proposal was to move the article to "Arabic numerals" from "Hindu-Arabic numerals", since that had been the title for many days when the voting started. Those opposing the move would have the advantage that it won't be moved unless there's a 60% majority, and those supporting the move have the advantage that the person proposing the move can do the short opening statement. I think an opening statement makes a HUGE difference, since many people just read the opening statement and understandably don't bother with the discussion below the votes. I accepted writing nothing in the lead paragraph with the understanding that the article will be moved to "Arabic numerals" only if more than 60% voters favored that title. Thus, only 40% oppose votes were sufficient to retain the title "Hindu-Arabic numerals." In spite of getting over 60% votes in favor of HAN, they still moved it. There is no evidence of sockpuppetry or anything like that. What do you think about this situation? deeptrivia (talk) 03:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, could you please restore the userpage from Gilliamjf to GilliamJF? I need the external links from it. Thanks. Gilliamjf 08:52, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On second thoughts, 362 is much more than 3, so the delay shouldn't matter ;). Best wishes for a happy new year, and thanks a ton for helping me out umpteen no. of times. --Gurubrahma 13:42, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, my bureaucrat :) -

That page move request was definately the toughest I've done so far. There were definately a number of factors involved here - not to mention it being moved several times back and forth between the two names - and, as a WP:RM "patroller" I feel that it is my responsability to determine both if there is a consensus to move the page from its original position, and where is was originally. Also, as you mention, the 60% number is arbitrary, and in the cases of disputes over naming conventions (which people have said that they want moves on WP:RM to follow) some people have expressed that they want the threshold to be higher. Beyond that, my reasoning on the talk page of the article applies. I would like to request that if someone does move it back, the person who moves it back is someone who wasn't involved in the debate, so that it gives off a feeling of fairness etc.. At any rate another admin on WP:RM said he might have time to review the descision, but I havn't heard back yet.

Another admin at the time told me to move it back as it may help the revert warring etc. on the article - I'm starting to see a little of that reasoning... so I'm not sure, even if I was right, it was the best page name for wikipedia, as it were. I'm not sure about hindu-arabic either, as I'm not an expert in the subject.

If you have any questions feel free to ask on my talk page :).

WhiteNight ^{T | @ | C} 16:04, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Nichalp,

Thank you for your message. First, I'm honoured that you would consider me worthy. However, I don't think I can accept at the moment, simply because I'm already spending more time on Wikipedia than I should. Much as I would welcome the extra tools, I also see adminship as carrying an obligation to help out with the necessary administrative chores. I don't think it would be right to become an admin and then leave the work to others, only using the extra power for my own purposes occasionally. I'm not ruling it out for ever, but I don't think I can devote time to being an active administrator at the moment.

Thank you again for asking me. I do appreciate it.

Stephen Turner (Talk) 17:11, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nichalp. Thanks for your comments on which images I should create. I'll be getting on with them soon. However, do you have any suggestions as to how I could improve the animation that I just created on off break before I make some more along the same lines? Cheers, [[Sam Korn]] 21:53, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I could. However, I was trying to make the image as simple as possible, and I thought that including drift could confuse the new reader as to the difference between spin and swing. I am intending to do a swing picture! Do you think this is a valid reasoning? If you don't, I'll change it. (The added ease of going in a straight line is only slightly relevant... :=) ) [[Sam Korn]] 15:17, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Is there a reason you removed my mention of the recent floods on the Mumbai page? It was a pretty notorious event that received worldwide coverage. I know it's on the Mumbai timeline, but I'd think it was significant enough to rate a mention on the main page as well. -- Hongooi 09:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have done a lot of work on this artice and removed mostly all of the concerns you had brought out in the Peer Review. I have added a few more refs, but haven't yet gone image-hunting. What do you think? --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 10:51, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The three parts are so interrelated that splitting up of the article into 3 separate sections would destroy the content from each of these sections. If this is done, I don't believe any of them would reach featured status.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 15:22, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey!

Happy New Year!

It's been a long time since I've been here. I saw the Category:History of India has gazillion articles now. What happened? Was there a change in direction after the discussion Talk:Subhash_Chandra_Bose#Voting?

Thanks,

Alren (talk · contribs) 21:21, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reduced the heading size. Don't know how I'm going to reduce the amount of bold-text here because there are so may topics and subtopics. I tried italicizing them, but then they just blend in and become a part of the text and don't look like headings.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|)

Hey Nichalp. The Arabic numerals article was renamed to Hindu-Arabic numerals by User:RN, and then back to Arabic numerals by User:Dbachmann. However, now there seems to be an agreement on "Hindu-Arabic numerals (glyphs)" proposed by him. (see Talk:Hindu-Arabic numerals (system) and Talk:Arabic numerals). It seems though that one has to be an admin for this name change. Could you look into it? Thanks! deeptrivia (talk) 02:28, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please look at this POV fork article Numerals invented by Hindus that I have marked for deletion. deeptrivia (talk) 05:32, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I thought you might find this useful: [6]. It's a map of undivided Punjab and new division and I think it's perfect for what you need. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 11:46, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ideal map! Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:33, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ready for FA yet??--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 16:43, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, can you please tell me how to get maps in which the locations of small cities (like Barasat)is denoted?Or do I have to generate such maps by using some graphics software on readily available maps?

Thanks.

Dwaipayanc--Dwaipayanc 16:48, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shivraj, I've stated what I've seen. Xenophobic because of the refusal of us editors to accept that there are non Indians who may have an unbiased or updated perspective. Myopic because of the fact that people refuse to accept the fact that newer and possibly better theories emerge every year. I've read school history books written by Indian and non-Indian authors. Indian authors are usually dictated by political idealogies and reeks of a tacit bias. Foreign editors are more subdued, but lack the bias. (Recall the Shivaji incident where Shiv Sainks went on the rampage). From the Rajput talk page (posted 09:24, 22 December 2005 (UTC)), dab has challenged you to provide a credible reference. A published book with an ISBN number is more credible that an online resource. Books are copyedited and reviewed before publishing, websites are not. If you can post a credible reference and not personally attack dab for being Swiss, I think you would have gained some respectability. The same applies to Zora. I've have differences with the two in the past, but we've never allowed it to go personal. I've been in their boat. I've been accused of having an anti-Hindu bias just because I removed an image of a temple that was a copyviolation. I've been accused of being anti-Marathi, because I deleted an article on a book whose existence was suspect. From the RFC, it looks like only sockpuppets seem to endorse the summary. Take my suggestion seriously, learn more about the wikisystem. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:50, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If you fundamentally believe that western research is better then ours and our history by our people will always be inferior,

I never said that. It is you who unfortunately assumed so. I've stated that Indian history books are often coloured by political idealogies. I've read the class 12 college history text book (Maharashtra; Arts stream) and it reeks of an anti-Mughal, pro-Maratha bias.

Ok. Does it mean all history books written by Indians are biased? This is what I understand from your utterance.

Unless a westener puts his stamp of approval it does not become gospel. Grow out of it.

Grow out of it?? I'm afraid but your choice of words are a little condescending. I am trying to tell you that it is possible from a western point of view, history may be somewhat neutral. I'm not taking sides, I'm asking you to cite your references to support your claim. I also know that many Indian authors refuse to bow down to political painting.

Have you read history other then in a classroom setting? I would like to see with how many datapoints you are operating. Note even to draw a line u need to fix two points.

But such a view point shows me the subjugation of your thinking process to that of cultural slave

You have already been warned for ad hominem attacks. Please go through Wikipedia:No personal attacks and desist from doing the same. If you continue to personally attack wikipedians, you might be hard banned. So in the interest of the Indian wikipedian community, please desist from doing so least we all get a bad name.

I do not think it is an attack. When you cannot accept that your own people can write there own un biased history what else do you want me to conclude?

Your friends are pushing references that they googled

Do you have proof? Can you challenge them to quote the page numbers?

If you were following the debate you would not ask this question. Zora just ordered a useless book on rajputs and perhaps this will be her first book on this subject. Dab I think has not even made an effort to read his first book on rajputs yet. I do not need to challenge them because what they write on WP is evidence enough.

Look at the fight on WP on Arabic numerals

Have you read my comments there? Arabs were responsible for transferring the numerals from India to Europe. Hindu numerals will be confused with Devanagiri numerals.

Way off again. Hindu numerals is the right terminology but you as an Indian admin do not have the guts to say so. This is why I made the comments about cultural slave etc. Read any good mathematics book and you would know 0 was invented in India and so were these numerals.

Sad thing is India is not doing a good job in educating Indians.

You've finally come to the crux of the matter.

I meant that this comment applies to you.

Your support of dab is just unacceptable.

You're entitled to have your own opinion. But in the best interests of the wikipedian community, you don't seem to be cooperating too much to end the fiasco.

Really. He called millions of Indians "every sh*hole ..." or something to that effect and nobody banned him. You can suck up to him. I have got no problem with that.

You should be ashamed of calling yourself an Indian.

You hardly know of my work around here. I really don't have to show you my credentials. Stick around for a few months, learn about the wikiprocess and contribute in a more fruitful manner is the best advice I can give you.

I am contributing in a fruitful manner to borrow ur phrase. I have seen you in action a few times: zora comment on gurubrahma's page aimed at me; dab's support without following the rajput debate and your behavior as an admin on the numeral debate. Do you have other claims to fame I should look at?

I have no interest in the Rajput controversy, but I am appealing to you to cooperate with the other editors and end the mindless bickering. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:48, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If you cannot decipher who is operating with references and who is not what can I say? Go look at the references section of current rajput page. Shivraj Singh 17:06, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nichal, Let us take one step at a time. Please look at this link. This is a list of 61 books from which I created the rajput page. Today I got a chance to update ISBN's and author name etc for about 50% of the books. In the past I have been accused of pushing Hindutva POV by people who have reverted my edits without citing a single source of there own. (This includes Zora/dab/Goethean and all muslims). I have invited them to debate multiple times, that point out what is factually incorrect in what I have written. None has come forth yet in last four months. Though they keep saying I am anti muslim, Pro BJP, Shiv Sainik, Hindutwa wadi and what not. Put yourself in my shoes and see how frustrating it is. On top of that if you guys also start questioning me without having a proper debate with me it becomes even more intolerable because one can understand westerners and muslims are against you but it is very hard to analyze why your own countrymen are against you. Shivraj Singh 18:05, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your suggestions. They have been fixed and I just wonder if there is anything else you like to see fixed. Zach ^{(Smack Back) Fair use policy} 18:32, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your wishes, Nichalp. I wish you a very happy new year ahead. :-) -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 07:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm back in action, but it would never be the same as what used to be. Anyway, good to see the next generation of quality Indian editors shooting for FAs. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 11:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please try to do it as quickly as you can? (preferably before one week). Much appreciated.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 15:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have left a lecture on my talk page but have not answered questions I had asked you. As far as being uncivil, remember xenophobia and what not. Calling someone a cultural slave is similar. You have to answer questions about history books that you mentioned . Shivraj Singh 17:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry but I said I would only answer it if you mellow the tone of the questions down. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is clear you have no intention of admitting your mistake. Your support of dab and your insinuations of xenophobia shows an inherent prejudice. Now your lack of debate behind the veil of mellow tone etc is just a farce. Shivraj Singh 19:09, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nichalp - I'm putting this article thru peer review, and I would really welcome and value your opinion and advice to raise it to FA-quality and status. I hope you will take a look whenever you have the time. I want to make this an FA, becoz I feel that the events this article covers were possibly the most crucial in modern Indian history. Thanks, Rama's Arrow 18:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nichalp - I'm very grateful for your advice - your meticulous analysis helps me solve imbedded problems. I'm gonna incorporate them all save the one about splitting the article, which I don't believe is necessary. I messed up about notifying about commercial use, but the guy was sent a direct link to the GFDL page here on Wikipedia after he approved the use.

Thanks again - Rama's Arrow 15:33, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wish you and your family a Happy New Year '06 and best of life for ever. I am slghtly active on the Eng Wiki for some time from NZ and shall revert shortly.

--Dore chakravarty 20:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, so I see. I'll look to see what you haven't done (if anything) and clean up. Have you removed NickCatal's failing nomination? Cheers, Cecropia 05:23, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, well, we're caught up. We have at lesat a day before we see whether we can push the button (or not) at the same time. This is good practice if we ever go on Jeopardy!. ;-) -- Cecropia 07:36, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jst to enquire,why must we put email IDs on Rfa?And where do we put it.I've seen many Rfas whih suceeded,but I did not notice any email id.Where must the candidate put it at?On the Rfa page or in Preferences? [[User:tdxiang|Tdxi[[WP:EA|a]][[User:tdxiang|ng]] 陈 鼎 翔 [[User Talk:tdxiang|(Talk)]]]] 03:39, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted the copyrights/authorship notice to the site from which it is derived.

Pizzadeliveryboy 18:34, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please check your facts. The political situation of AP is not ambigious. It is completely under the political control of India, including as certified by maps of India as well as China.

I do agree with the case for J&K.

The maps of Mumbai from www.mapsofindia.com are free-to-use. Please check the site.

mapsofindia has a commercial use clause

Please check. Both Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh have been reverted to full Indian claim by China. The only area of contention is Aksai Chin in Kashmir.

Nicalp:

Please check the NASA copyright notice - they allow usage of imagery for educational and informational purposes only, on any forum, including web pages. If thats true then satellite imagery of Salsette island should also go.

11th April 2005 in BBC:

China and India sign border deal

The premiers are also trying to boost economic ties India and China have signed an agreement in Delhi aimed at resolving a long-running dispute over their Himalayan border. India's national security adviser said it was "one of the most significant documents" signed by the two countries.

The agreement was sealed as Indian premier Manmohan Singh met visiting Chinese counterpart Wen Jiabao.

The world's two most populous countries fought a bitter war over their largely unmarked border in 1962.

'Major process'

India's National Security Adviser MK Narayanan told Indian television that Indian and Chinese officials had worked out a roadmap for resolving the disputed 3,550km (2,200 mile) border.

"It shows a lot of give and take on both sides," he said.

 We are going to put in place a bridge of friendship linking our two countries, a bridge that will lead both of us to the future 

Wen Jiabao

Trade powers ties Have Your Say

"We are very hopeful that this document will be the starting point of a major process in the settlement of the boundary dispute between India and China."

The joint statement by the two countries did not go into specifics on the issue, talking of "political parameters" and "guiding principles".

However, China has now formally given up its claim to the state of Sikkim.

Click here for map of disputed areas The joint statement refers to "the Sikkim State of the Republic of India".

Until now, China had never recognised India's 1975 annexation of Sikkim.

On the remaining issues of contention, the statement said "special representatives" would negotiate the issues, adding: "Both sides are convinced that an early settlement of the boundary question will advance the basic interests of the two countries."

Both sides have previously claimed the other is occupying parts of its land.

please check item 1: you may use it only for educational and informational purposes, not for commercial purpose

its not the BMC logo but the Coat of Arms of Greater Mumbai. It is used by all civic bodies who run the city. In that sense, it is also used as a seal of Greater Mumbai.

BMC does not have a logo per se.

ok i agree the mapsofindia copyright may be insifficient and I dont care about the NASA copyright issue since I was not the originator. Let me see if I can get free-to-use maps somewhere. However, I think the text should be fine.

it is not the BMC logo but the Coat of Arms of Greater Mumbai. It is used by all civic bodies who run the city (hence added in the Civic Admin section) - the logic is this: If list of civic officials is to be included, then the seal used by the same to distinguish their office should also be documented. In that sense, it is also used as a seal of Greater Mumbai.

It is also used on letterhead of all official correspondence of civic (meaning city) officials.

BMC does not have a logo per se.

Hi, Just wondering if you've had chance to make this map yet? Thanks! Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 19:47, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The tone of the statement alluding the cause of discontent amongst the citizens of Mumbai against the WIF is a mild POV. The causes of the discontent as documented (and is proposed to face public hostility as 'it could block the public's view of the sea and sunset at Marine Drive') biases against several other causes for agitation, including concern for environmental reasons, such as those raised by local Kolis, or the BEAG.

It would be better to maintain a seperate section where all possible causes for discontent against this project could be outlined, including the ones in the original version, as well as those raised by folks like BEAG.

1. Please sign your posts. 2. Any material added to the topic needs to be added with proper citations. See Wikipedia:No original research. If you can get material from websites, newspapers, mags then you may add it to the article. Thanks. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:37, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, perhaps we are talking after a long gap, except doing exchanges of wishes. It is really nice that this is over. But, contents will have to be expanded, though that will happen only in due course of time. Now, you have to identify some more assignments! --Bhadani 10:19, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Nicholas, We should try to do something as regards the topics which you have suggested. I will try to give some inputs. --Bhadani 12:48, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since you're here right now, can I please request you to check out the article and copyedit. Sorry for bugging you.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 10:28, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain context

What about reference to Dalal Street and India's tallest buildings. I have added them so that there is an embedded link to the article in wikipedia, and is also reference to the unique characteristics of the city

Pizzadeliveryboy 14:06, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Talk:Mumbai =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:10, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nichalp, I sure would like to help, if you tell me how. I followed the link you sent me, but really cannot make out anything. Can you please clarify? Regards, ImpuMozhi 15:33, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the page you were using to copyedit to Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India/Temp. Please make further edits to copyedit there. BTW, are you serious that " Women cannot be detained before sunrise and after sunset ".--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 16:37, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Please archive your talk page. It's 37 kb long (as long as the FR page, if I may add :)--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 16:38, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]