User talk:Mycroft.Holmes/archive

Have we come to terms on the Parma page yet? I see that some other users made some proposal, which is fine by me, i.e. neither of us just deleting the other's contributions, signing talk posts, providing more references for the history, making the language more neutral, and putting the economic material in a better context. Anyway, just curious if we should request the page be unlocked or not. I'm obviously okay with adding sections on "Famous People from Parma" and so on.--172.144.171.238 05:15, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like the idea of having a section for Parma businesses and a separate article for the pet store. As for the small-town politics, I wonder if the same technique can be used. Regardless, let's get the page opened up. -- Mycroft.Holmes 21:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because of some bad virus/identity theft experiences, I personally am just "afraid" to create any online accounts, no matter how secure Wikipedia might be. Therefore, if you would be so kind as to start new pages for "RMS Aquaculture" and "The Parma Witch Hunt," I would gladly move the contested information onto those pages and then we could just have links to them from the Parma page. --172.147.240.54 21:18, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RMS Aquaculture and The Parma Witch Hunt created as stubs. -- Mycroft.Holmes 01:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Witch Hunt Page showed up, but the RMS one didn't seem to be editable . . . Also, do we both need to request that the Parma page gets unblocked or how does that work? I mentioned it on Curps' talk page, but haven't heard anything yet. Best, --172.130.220.31 03:19, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what happened to the RMS page. It's there now, with the text from the Parma page. -- Mycroft.Holmes 13:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FYI ... The Witch Hunt page has been tagged (not by me, I promise!) as a possible copyright violation. -- Mycroft.Holmes 14:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now that someone has greatly cleaned up the Witch Hunt information, maybe we should just keep it on the Parma Page and delete the separate Witch Hunt article OR have a separate page on the History of Parma that can have the info? What do you think?--172.132.18.191 02:32, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know how you feel about the pet store stuff, but why also delete the new information on the blackout and Ken Kuzma, which undeniably made national news, and which others, even registered users, suggested be included in the article? Best, --172.162.144.116 23:06, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to have to agree with what the anonymous users say this time. Seeing as how they actually have references and proof, there was no reason to blatantly do a compete revert. I understand putting the tag back on and removing the ads, but not getting rid of new proven information. --Wizardman 02:02, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds reasonable enough, but I really don't intend the economic stuff as an ad and by including references to other pet stores and not having instructions of where to shop, I just don't see how it's being perceived as such. The point is to have a real and specific example of the changing reality of Parma's store life (from the few remaining small or local businesses like Parma Pets and RMS to the PetSmarts and Pet Supplies Pluses). --172.147.192.103 04:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please refer to the Parma talk page so we can discuss the new wording before just deleting stuff that people put time into revising. Thanks, --152.163.100.71 02:15, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Mycroft, hold of on any Parma deletions for at least the next few hours, as I'm working on some research for the page and will submit that before Lost starts and then you can add your two sents afterwards, but at least wait to see how the new or revised content fits first and it'll be helpful to leave the page as is for the time being. Thanks, --164.107.92.120 20:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dudette, you are totally out of control! :(

I don't think you're giving good reasons to delete the economy stuff. It does mention specific stores in Parma that have a history with the city and the information connects really well with the rest of the article. Perhaps, just focus on adding and correcting grammar, because you otherwise seem to dwell too much on deleting others' contributions and some of these indviduals have on the other hands made attempts to revise the material to make it fit better. Do you read these revisions or just delete the paragraphs without noticing the changes? Regards. --24.154.173.243 00:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do not continue to vandalize this page. An enclyclopedia is a catalog of human knowledge. Your numerous deletions detract from an otherwise solid article and are highly suspicious . . . --Hemto 16:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that Mom & Pop businesses are dying in order to make way for larger companies is not unique to Parma. People have been complaining about Wal-Mart (especially in the rural South) since the 80's In fact, this is not even a problen unique to our time. In the 30's and 40's, supermarkets like A & P were considered the scourge of the local grocer and an evil that had to be stopped. I'm sure with a little constructive Googling, even earlier examples could be found.

Regarding the pet store "war": pet stores are not unique to Parma. As far as I have been able to determine, it's a backhanded attempt to get Google link. When "RMS Aquaculture" was in the article, a Google for "Aquaculture" showed the Wikiwpedia article first. That's a Wiki-no-no I'd wager.

Added to all this is the fact that the the "person" who keeps adding the questionable material has remained steadfastly annonymous. In addition, that same person uses threats of permanent bannage to threaten other editors. My general rule of thumb is that questionable material added by an annoymous user is subject to summary deletion. I don't thnk that's a bad or an unfair guideline. I'll usually try to to a little reasearch to check out the addition, but if I don't have time and it smells a little funny, into the garbage it goes!

To any sysops who might watching, I would respectfully request the this page be changed from protected to semi-protected status. If you look at the history of this page, you'll see that the article was extremely quiet while it was semi-protected. When the page is open, Annony will usually telegraph a new outbreak of hostilities by vandalizing my user page just to see if I'm watching.

I believe if you check my other edits, you'll find that that they are factual, well-written, and completely "under control". -- Mycroft.Holmes 13:20, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wholeheartedly disagree. I know for a fact that a good deal of what you delete on the Parma page is NOT from the same person. Moreover, as for the pet store comments they do preference any specific store. There are no "shop here" style comments; in fact, multiple stores are mentioned in passing. Even if the trend is not unique to Parma, it fits with a larger theme of the article in that Parma has changed noticeable over the past few decades:

1. Parma Heights broke off of a Parma (supposedly for religious reasons) 2. Parma's population went from over 100,000 to now being in the low 80,000s 3. Parma's police force had over 100 officers, but now has around 80 (paralleling the population trend); Parma's police force has also cancelled DARE and never replaced its K9 unit 4. Parma's visual make up in the way of smaller stores has given way to the chains

Anyway, a lot of us anonymous users who are hesitant to register because of identity theft fears, personal attacks, etc., still make worthwhile contributions. I usually look for grammar errors or typos in articles and I care about Parma because I lived there for nearly 15 years. So, I think protecting the page is pointless and that the economic information is 100% acceptable and reasonable. Best, --24.154.173.243 15:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC)--24.154.173.243 00:49, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not trying to be funny, but what exactly is a Mycrotch Holmes anyway? Is that like a name or something? If so what ethnicity, playah? Vroooom, vrooom!! :) --205.188.117.11 00:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, Mykraft, just answer the question!

Okay, enough jokes. I'm just curious on the origins of the name. That's it. Have a pleasant day, --172.137.59.7 20:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mycroft Holmes -- Mycroft.Holmes 21:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, cool, thanks for the reply! So, are you named after this character or is it just a nickname? --172.165.161.31 21:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So, why Mycroft and not Sherlock? Keep it smooth!--140.254.69.123 17:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, enough games, make a bio now!! Or at least add an image or some stinks, er links! :) Are you watching the Raw family reuinion tonight?! I am! So there, G! And what's up with Kim Jong Mentally Ill?! You tell me!! The sooner the better! PYP! --172.128.50.16 20:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, why don't you have a bio page or something? I think that would be cool, no? --164.107.92.120 15:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

it isnt a minor dispute... 222.155.21.111 21:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to be childish, but yes, it is. The tag calls into question the accuracy of the entire article. I dont think that the dispute does that. --Mycroft.Holmes 21:29, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is this section in reference to? And let's not be childish! --164.107.92.120 00:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're affiliated with http://tjs-labs.com/, I presume? Note that it is strongly discouraged per WP:EL and WP:NPOV that you add links to sites which you own or maintain. (You're prominently naming the site and include a referrer to Wikipedia, it is doubtful that you're a neutral editor about it.) Please do not add more links to the site without further discussion on the article talk pages, and reconsider your earlier links. Thank you. Femto 12:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell, the external links I've added are permissible per WP:EL (see below)

What should be linked to

Sites that contain neutral and accurate material not already in the article. Ideally this content should be integrated into the Wikipedia article, then the link would remain as a reference, but in some cases this is not possible for copyright reasons or because the site has a level of detail which is inappropriate for the Wikipedia article.

Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as professional athlete statistics, screen credits, interviews, or online textbooks.

All the links I have added are to sites have absolutely no POV whatsoever. The sites compile and display neutral, verifiable data. Thanks for the heads up. --Mycroft.Holmes 12:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Point 3 of Links normally to be avoided takes precedence: A website that you own or maintain, even if the guidelines above imply that it should be linked to. — Not the content of your site is the POV but already the decision whether or not to link to it. Suggest your links on the talk pages and let independent editors decide to add them, please don't do it yourself. Femto 17:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: [1] The guidelines are clear enough. Regardless of content, site owners may not add their links (especially not in larger numbers Special:Linksearch/*.tjs-labs.com) without consensus from neutral editors. So:

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites that you are affiliated with, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Femto 11:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

[2], [3] Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming, and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Thanks. Femto 11:27, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Please do not remove legitimate warnings from your talk page or replace them with inappropriate content. Removing or maliciously altering warnings from your talk page will not remove them from the page history. You're welcome to archive your talk page, but be sure to provide a link to any deleted legitimate comments. If you continue to remove or vandalize legitimate warnings from your talk page, you will lose your privilege of editing your talk page. Thanks.
• Also, is this 15.235.153.101 (talk · contribs) your IP, and what is your relation to this account Lionel.Mandrake (talk · contribs) ? Femto 13:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do people even know what their IPs are? --Mycroft.Holmz 04:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's logged in the edit history when you edit anonymously for example. Anyway, who are you? Femto 10:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I mean how do WE know what OUR ips are? Cheers!--Mycroft.Holmz 22:12, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, if you want a page to be protected please use Wikipedia:Requests for page protection and not the list. Thanks. --Alex (Talk) 17:46, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oooops ... read it wrong. Will do ... thanks! --Mycroft.Holmes 17:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The funny thing is that YOU're the only one doing the vandalism! A majority of other users is fine with the material. I will maybe cede the economic section, but the Witch Hunt was THE most significant news story about and in Parma for nearly three years. Only politicians with an agenda would want it removed . . . --Mycroft.Holmz 17:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.

--Alex (Talk) 20:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In all due respect, please familiarize yourself with WP:OWN. 128.118.89.56 20:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good call! Mycroft has his moments, but is by and large delete happy and treats the Parma article as if he owns it. --172.135.150.253 05:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles that you have created yourself, as you did with Tom Alley. If you do not believe the article deserves to be deleted, then please do the following:

1. Place {{hangon}} on the page. Please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag(s).
2. Make your case on the article's talk page.

Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. --NMChico24 03:30, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Done! Thanks. --Mycroft.Holmes 03:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I thought we already discussed this. Tjs-labs.com is your site, and WP:EL#Advertising and conflicts of interest is clear enough. Do not link to your site without explicit consensus on the talk pages:

Please stop. If you continue spamming you will be blocked from editing. Femto 15:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd also like to know, do you, or do you not, hold the copyright on those ads. Femto 16:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have noticed you are making many articles for each race. So all of these pages can be cleaner, I suggest you follow the format of, say, 1951 Indianapolis 500. Thanks, and happy editing. -Whomp 19:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please link complete dates. Date with day month are linked [[day month]] (or month day linked as [[month day]]); dates with month day, year are linked [[month day]], [[year]] (or if day month year as [[day month]] [[year]] - note no comma) This allows the user preferences feature to work and rearrange the dates into the format the user has specified. In full dates, years must also be linked - some people like formats with years first then dates. Rmhermen 19:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestions. For now, I just want to get the full set of results into the Wiki. The only complete results were for the 50's, and those pages have a definite "F1 feel" to them (e.g. using "RET" instead of actual finish position). Since I'm using a PHP program to dump the contents of my Indy 500 data base in Wiki table format, I can change these pages very quickly. -- Mycroft.Holmes 19:44, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW ... the reason I did not link the year in the date was becuase the year was already linked in "results of the YYYY Indianapolis 500" part of the title. I can change the dump so that the year is not linked there, but as part of the date. I'm adding some additional data to the source database, so I'll have to re-create the pages anyway. -- Mycroft.Holmes 14:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And while we're on the subject of dates ... my database does not store the actual race date, so I wrote the dump program to use the "traditional" date of May 30 on all pages. I'll tweak the database to store the actual race date(s) and update the dumper accordingly. This'll be a work-in-progress and might take me a couple of days to get to. -- Mycroft.Holmes 15:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would also suggest that you would use title case for the driver's names rather than all capital letters. You could also create Wikilinks to each driver as many do have their own articles. It would be a great asset to other users rather than wait for someone else to do it later. You seem to know the subject well. ww2censor 19:52, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I noticed that as I started to do this little project. My next change will be to capitalize the names properly (my db stored them all in upper case) and create a wiki-link. I'm also working on getting the race speeds into the database and onto the wiki-pages. -- Mycroft.Holmes 19:55, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you noticed those points and will update on your own. Great work. BTW, I don't see anything about René Dreyfus in the 1940 Indy 500 in that year's article listing. ww2censor 01:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have a few comments about the results tables you have been placing on older drivers' pages. Firstly, they appear to be copied directly from another site. If this is true, then that is a copyright violation. Secondly, they do not include chassis/engine info or links to that year's Indy 500 page. Third, they are poorly formatted and do not utilize wikitables. Finally, they do not include information for years where the driver attempted to qualify but failed to do so. I like that you are interested in adding more info to wikipedia, but replacing existing results with your tables results in a lot of useful information being lost. -Drdisque 06:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The official 1940 box score from IMS at indy500.com does not mention Dreyfus. Neither do any of my source books. Was he a relief driver? -- Mycroft.Holmes 14:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that was the case. I have his book My Two Lives but as I just moved house do not have the info to hand. I know he was invited to the USA in 1940 and while there the Germans invaded France, so he was unable to return. Do you not list the relief drivers? Thanks ww2censor 15:13, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's been my experience that relief drivers are not mentioned in the final results unless they played a significant role in driving a winning car (e.g. 1924, 1941) -- Mycroft.Holmes 17:26, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I was wondering how sure you were of the results for the Indy 500 that you posted for all the years. I was starting an article on John Mahler, and noticed that there was a link to him from the 1971 race, but according to the official Indy website, he didn't race in 1971, although I believe that he did qualify the car raced by Dick Simon. This prompted me to check the 1971 results that you posted vs. the box score on the website and it looks like there are about 7 drivers who don't match. I decided to go to the 2006 article and start working my way backwards comparing your results and 2006 and 2005 match, but there is a discrepancy in 2004. It looks to me like you have reversed Sam Hornish, Jr. and Roger Yasukawa. You have them listed as 10th/26th, but the website has them listed as 26th/10th. Also, Hornish's website news archive shows him as 26th. I'm going to change this race and I will check some of the others, but I'm not sure how long it might take, so if you are not very confident in your data/postings, I would appreciate it of you took another look. --Brian G 21:23, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. I'll check my database and my data sources and make corrections as needed. -- Mycroft.Holmes 00:27, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just an update on some changes I've made since my last posting.... I've changed 2004 Indianapolis 500 as noted above. I've made substantial change to 1986 Indianapolis 500, if you would please check that one out and make sure I did it right, please note Talk:1986 Indianapolis 500. For 1979 Indianapolis 500, I changed Hucul and added McElreath. All the other years from 1972-2006 look fine to me now. I've also made a few adjustments for different years to the qualifying speeds and the car numbers, but nothing major. If you want more details about them just let me know. I haven’t checked anything before 1971 yet. Hopefully this will allow you to save some time and not have to check over quite as much. --Brian G 01:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have spent dozens of hours putting engine and chassis data into wikipedia. Please stop allowing your bot to undo all this hard work. -Drdisque 23:01, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I think you're probably right to change the F1 results to Indy results for drivers who only ever competed in the F1 world championship at Indy. It's not an attempt by the F1 community to kidnap the topic:-). It's just that a lot of the driver results were automatically generated from the F1 world championship results, which do include Indy between 1950 and 1960.

It might be worth noting with some of them though that they are credited with points and wins in the F1 world championship as well - an interesting historical oddity that would add to the completeness of their articles. The emphasis should of course be on their US careers.

Cheers. 4u1e 14:50, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• I agree completely. I think that a separate article should be written describing the relationship and then summarizing the various drivers' results (e.g. points, poles, fast laps, etc). If you take a look at Lloyd Ruby, you'll see that I left his GP stuff alone since he did participate in F1 outside of Indy. --Mycroft.Holmes 14:56, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably doesn't need a new separate article - the 1950 Formula One season to 1960 Formula One season articles give their points scored etc in F1. The background on why this was so could be beefed up on each page however. I've reinstated Ruby's F1 results table - only for his USGP race - to keep him consistent with the other F1 drivers, who mostly have that table, even if they have only competed in a very small number of races. What do you think? 4u1e 15:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You may have noted that my bot has been busy editing a lot of articles you created about American race car drivers. The article American is a disambiguation page; you probably want to refer to the article on the United States instead. If you aren't familiar with Wiki syntax, the way to do this is by "piping" the link like this: [[United States|American]]. Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia! --Russ (talk) 14:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Yup ... I noticed it alright! Frankly, I was a little too lazy to do all that extra typing, so I thought I'd let your 'bot do it for me! I'll try to be better about it as I update more articles. Thanks! --Mycroft.Holmes 14:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Mycroft! I was wondering why you removed the F1 driver template from the Art Bisch article. Your edit didn't have a comment, so I'm forced to ask. -- Mikeblas 19:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• With all due respect to Mr. Bisch, Art Bisch was as much a Formula One driver as I am. As I've said on numerous other pages, Indy ain't F1 and vice versa. --Mycroft.Holmes 19:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I see. Thing is, the 1958 Indianapolis 500 says that the race was part of the F1 championship series that year. Is it that Art participated in the event as an Indy driver and not a F1 driver, and that you think this disqualifies him as being described as an F1 driver? Though this predates my knowledge of the series, I know the championships were intermingled in these years, and don't know how people categorize the drivers. -- Mikeblas 19:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I've added a section to *all* Indy drivers who started races from 1950 to 1960 summarizing their F1 "participation". --Mycroft.Holmes 06:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you are helping me post families in Category:Auto racing families. Thanks for the help. I am not really a big racing fan and would appreciate your assistance adding the individual family categories to the drivers because I don't know all the drivers in some of the families you are creating. TonyTheTiger 16:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• I jumped right in on this one cuz I thought it was a great idea. I've added a few more families. My "expertise" lies in all thing Indy, but I did add a couple of Formula One families.--Mycroft.Holmes 16:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've been noticing your articles show up in new pages patrol, and the beginning of the article always shows up in the edit history, including the birth and death years. I've been starting to wonder if any of those early Indy drivers ever reached old age. Sure looks like they were bad candidates for life insurance. Fan-1967 03:58, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• It's pretty amazing how many of the early racers were killed in the commission of their chosen vocation. It seems that the pattern continues all the way through the 1950's and into the 1960's --Mycroft.Holmes 04:12, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I guess compared to today's cars, which have so much protection around the driver, those guys might as well have been driving convertibles. Fan-1967 04:17, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Surely since "Indy 500 Winners" is a sub-category of "Indy 500 Drivers" you don't need to add both? -- Ian Dalziel 12:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Good question. When I looked looked at the Indy 500 drivers category under "U", I found only Robby, Jerry, and Johnny Unser. I expected to see all of the Unsers in that category. Same with Mario, Michael, Marco and the rest of the Andrettis.--Mycroft.Holmes 15:50, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blowed if I can get it to work - I thought it should automatically include members of the subcategory. In which case Danny Sullivan would appear in "Indy 500 Drivers" - but he doesn't! I'll keep fiddling with it. -- Ian Dalziel 16:56, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was just hear to tell you the same thing. You need to stop adding polesitters, winners, etc. to the driver's category. All of Wikipedia is set up that if something is in a child category, it is automatically included in the parent category (and grandparent, etc.). I am positive. Do you want me to find and quote the policy or guideline? Royalbroil ^T : C 19:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the guideline: Wikipedia:Categorization and subcategories. Since it is a guideline, it should be broken only occasionally and with strong justification. If you think you have an exception, you should probably discuss it at Wikipedia:WikiProject American Open Wheel Racing. Cheers! Royalbroil ^T : C 19:13, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That guideline seems to say that both categories should be applied.

The example given is "Often an article could belong in more than one subcategory of a major category, but not all of these subcategories will necessarily exist. For example, actor Marlon Brando is in Category:Best Actor Academy Award winners and its parent Category:Film actors." -- Ian Dalziel 21:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Both Ian and I have tried subcategories. Specifically, take a look at Danny Sullivan. He's listed only as an Indy 500 winner. The winner category is a subcat of Indy 500 drivers. However, Sullivan is not listed as an Indy 500 driver. I would expect to see Sullivan displayed in both categories. --Mycroft.Holmes 19:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have copied this discussion to the WikiProject American Open Wheel Racing's talk page (Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_American_Open_Wheel_Racing#Indy_500_Drivers) to reach consensus. I have put my agreement with the proposal there. Let's talk there only. I want this to be a community agreement, so noone can complain about it later. Then we have an open forum place to cite with the consensus if a deletionist complains later. Royalbroil ^T : C 00:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. Thanks! --Mycroft.Holmes 01:06, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Please be courteous to other editors and use edit summaries when updating articles. The Mathbot tool shows your usage of edit summaries to be extremely low:

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JoeBot is out of commission for the time being. Sorry... JoeSmack ^Talk 02:56, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Dang! Do you know of any other bots that can perform this task? The sun will rise tomorrow if it doesn't get fixed, but the perfectionist in me wants to repair this blunder! --Mycroft.Holmes 02:58, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning. The next time you insert a spam link, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted from Wikipedia. Femto 21:52, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am running across articles that you created that should have the WikiProject banner added. Please add the banner to the article's talk page. The AutoWikiBot only added what had existed at that time. All Indy 500 drivers should have the template. Cheers! Royalbroil ^T : C 14:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you! :) --209.247.21.161 22:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your input. I will continue to edit pages to remove irrelevant, inaccurate, and subjective information. Please note that I will allow this "warning" to remain on my talk page for one week. At that time the discussion will be archived.--Mycroft.Holmes 23:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You seem way to quick to remove the contributions of others without discussing it on talk pages. It's as if you just scour about looking for stuff to delete and then have the audacity to acuse other people of stuff when you're even more guilty of violating 3 revert rules, etc. Feel free to add relevant material and proofread grammar, but knock off the unilateralism and blanket deletions, speedy reverts, acting as if you own certain articles, etc. You seem to be making way too many unconstructive edits. Since this IP is shared by others, I'll hold off making any other revisions on it so that others who use it don't get side-screwed into your mess that you've created, but seriously, you really need to grow up and take this website that many people read much more seriously. I'm hoping that you can mature and am rooting for you. Have a nice night and ta ta for now! --209.247.21.161 05:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

March 2007

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. ----209.247.21.161 03:29, 29 March 2007 (UTC) 23:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't there be one of them 3 revert blocks here? --172.132.179.188 03:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia, Mycroft.Holmes! However, your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove spam from Wikipedia. If you were trying to insert a good link, please accept my creator's apologies, but note that the link you added, matching rule \bdesig.+?\.com, is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia's external links policy for more information. If the link was to an image, please read Wikipedia's image tutorial on how to use a more appropriate method to insert the image into an article. If your link was intended to promote a site you own, are affiliated with, or will make money from inclusion in Wikipedia, please note that inserting spam into Wikipedia is against policy. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! Shadowbot 12:47, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop adding inappropriate links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming and will be removed. Thanks. Shadowbot 13:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You've already had a last warning for those links.

You have been temporarily blocked from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for continuing to add spam links. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires. Persistent spammers will have their websites blacklisted from Wikipedia. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Femto 13:59, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is the SECOND time that Mycroft.Holmes has been blocked by Wikipedia administrators . . . --172.144.133.172 16:47, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia as a result of your disruptive edits. You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our neutral point of view policy will not be tolerated. Signature^brendel 03:40, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a report here discussing a potentially improper block. Cool Blue^{talk to me} 20:26, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for noticing. --Mycroft.Holmes 21:55, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, one or more of the external links you added to the page whisky do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 23:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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A tag has been placed on Aldo Franchi requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. LegoTech·(t)·(c) 01:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Aldo Franchi, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aldo Franchi. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. LegoTech·(t)·(c) 13:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]