User talk:Lysozym/Archives/2014/Oct

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Hi,I just wanted to share to you my side of the story:
1. Here is part of my edit with which Jeneboyon has contention with (different from dispute resolution edit were all Barlas generalized):

The Barlas clan is now spread out in Central Asia, South Asia, Middle East,Turkey, and the Caucasus region. Like many other Turko-Mongol Tribes settled in Persia and Central Asia^[1][2], many subsets of the Barlas such as the Mughals and Timurids were persianized^{[3] [4]} and made created elaborate Persianate Court Cultures.^[5]

2. I sticked to my promise to not write Barlas in general are persianized but instead I am very specific and willing to provide even more reliable Sources if needed.
3. Persianization, from all I have read, is not ethnic but cultural See persianization and Turko-Persian tradition articles
4. Its not hard to find even more references to back this up and clearly meeting Wikipedia guidelines and anything verifiable cannot be deleted
5. I don't care if he or anyhone else wants to move it down to Timurid and Mughal section I dont care
--Nawabmalhi (talk) 03:58, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Useless discussion. --Lysozym (talk) 22:36, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

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What you did here is vandalism and source falsification. Also, this particular article doesn't need unnecessary information about the origins of each group.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 13:17, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

You should read WP:VANDALISM before accusing others. Because continuing your false accusations may get you blocked and eventually banned. As for the sources: the Encyclopaedia of Islam and the Encyclopaedia Iranica are both authoritative academic sources. The books you have googled are tertiary sources at best and inferior to these academic encyclopedias. And both of them agree that: (1) "Pashtun" and "Afghan" are synonymous, (2) that the word was NOT used for some native people "between the Amu Darya and the Hindu Kush", as you claim, but specifically for Pashto-speaking tribes that began to migrate from south of the Hindu Kush into what is now southern Afghanistan some 700-500 years ago, (3) that "Tajik" and "Persian" are synonyms (in fact, as late as the 1900s, the Persians of Iran were officially known and registered as "Tajiks"!).

That's also the reason why historical personalities like Avicenna or Rumi are not called "Afghans" by academics - because they were not. They were neither Pashtuns, nor Pashto-speaking, nor did they live in a country called "Afghanistan" - a term that was coined by British diplomats in the 19th century and much later adopted by Pashtun ethno-centric intellectuals in Kabul like Mahmoud Tarzi.

So pleas estop destroying the article by deleting authoritative academic sources and flooding it with unsourced POV. --Lysozym (talk) 22:35, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

What does this has to do with you adding Sadat as an ethnic group, falsely increasing Hazara to 25% (8-9 million), decreasing Pashtun to 40%, and all that other POV pushing and nonsense? [1] You are obviously POV-pushing and vandalizing the page with nonsense. This page is designed to give readers brief information from a neutral point of view on the number of ethnic groups living in present-day Afghanistan. Based on your edits and what you write here, you obviously lack a neutral point of view.--Krzyhorse22 (talk) 10:43, 6 October 2014 (UTC)