User talk:JennieMcGraw

Hi TonyBallioni! Out of curiosity, if it just the lack of citations that has made this subject to debate over delation? If so, if I add more citations, can it be approved? There are more references but I did not realize how important they were to getting approved. Thank you! JennieMcGraw (talk) 22:40, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cornell International Affairs Society is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cornell International Affairs Society until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:25, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry that I didn't see your post here before: if you want to contact me the best way is my talk page (you can reply here now, because I'm adding your page to my watchlist so I can see responses.) A few things:

1. Wikipedia's standard for inclusion are based on policies and guidelines such as Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Wikipedia:Notability (which includes what is called the general notability guideline, which you will see abbreviated as GNG or WP:GNG), and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). The short of all those policies is: Wikipedia is not a place for promotion or an indiscriminate collection of information. Our guideline for whether something is encyclopedic is whether it has substantial coverage in independent reliable sources. The article about your student organization does not seem to have that.
2. We also generally discourage people from writing articles about things that they are personally involved with, which I take it you are for CIAO. You can read more about this at our conflict of interest page.
3. Despite the previous two numbers, we are actually very open to new editors and would love it if you stayed around. Maybe consider updating an article that you are familiar with or are interested in. I'm assuming you have access to a great library and know how to source things. Category:International relations includes pages and subcategories that might fit your interest.

I hope this was helpful. If you have any questions, let me know. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:12, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I am actually not affiliated with CIAO, but used their articles for references to have something saved before going back to edit it later. I contacted the Editor of the publication for those references. I was unaware that this would immediately cause the entire page to be considered for deletion. I have augmented the page significantly with more outside references to demonstrate that I am not affiliated. I am new to Wikipedia and just wanted to create this page to get practice. I am definitely learning what is appropriate for referencing and what is not, however. Do you think the page is improved? In addition, I wanted to see if there is a way to add pronunciations to infoboxes? Thank you! JennieMcGraw (talk) 18:55, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Typically organizations get tougher scrutiny during the page review process. I think that the article is better than it was, but still don't think it meets the inclusion criteria personally, because the sourcing is what would we would consider trivial mentions or in non-independent or non-reliable sources. Unsure about how to get pronunciations in infoboxes, I typically don't work in areas where that would be helpful.

Writing an article tends to be one of the tougher tasks at Wikipedia, and we often suggest that people work on updating existing articles first as a way of learning how to edit the encyclopedia. There are also a ton of existing stub articles that need expansion (and expanding them 5x can get it on the main page). If you look at Papal conclave, May 1605, this is what it looked like about a week ago before I started cleaning it up and expanding it.

If you need any help on anything, please feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or ask me. Also, as an FYI, if you do plan to stick around (which I really hope you do), you may want to create a userpage, even if it is only a few sentences. Having a red-linked username tends to make you stick out around here, and the regulars, fairly or unfairly, will take notice. You don't have to, but I think it would be a good idea :) TonyBallioni (talk) 19:07, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]