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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Suicide of Amanda Todd is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suicide of Amanda Todd (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 22:05, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

I dont wish to put you on the spot, but do you have any suggestions in dealing with editor FrontBottomFracas in the the Amanda Todd article? I noticed you worked on the article and your comments made you seem a reasonable person to ask advice. I am at my wits end. I've been close to posting possible block warnings on his talk page, but I keep backing off because despite everything he does engage in discussions with other editors. However, he seems to learn nothing from them! He both doesn't understand Wikipedia policy and what he does understand he disagrees with! He seems obsessed with the date issue and keeps going on and on repeating arguments which have no merit. Ive put a lot of extra work because if him and we have reverted almost all, if not all, his contributions, I'm sorry if this is a bit long but I'm near the point of giving up and unwatchimg the article. Any help is very welcome. BashBrannigan (talk) 05:02, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

I posted at User talk:FrontBottomFracas#Talk:Suicide of Amanda Todd.23Date of birth and Talk:Suicide of Amanda Todd#Date of birth. I hope it helps. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:21, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I think it helped, at least for the moment.BashBrannigan (talk) 16:19, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

I lost track, did this make it onto the queue as a DYK? Invertzoo (talk) 00:06, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

I think it's still here: Template:Did you know nominations/Mattheus Marinus Schepman Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:17, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the note about List of pastries which you left on my userpage - I appreciate your letting me know that the article is getting viewed frequently, which is good to see! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:44, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Dear Anna. Thank you for your support with this page. We are currently editing it for resubmission. I do feel, however, that once our page is written in a neutral stance there is no reason for it not to be published, especially as there are pages like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Leslie_(businessman) which give no insight or information but seem to merit an article.

Many thanks, Tom

Cable london (talk) 11:40, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello Tom,

You are most welcome. Writing neutrally is much appreciated. I must say though, that I am not a big fan of company articles, especially when created for promotional purposes.

What will eventually determine whether or not it becomes an article is the quality and quantity of the references.

Thanks for pointing out Cameron Leslie (businessman). The hackneyed and much-cited WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS explains how that article cannot justify the presence of another, similarly non-notable article. In fact, bringing it to our attention places it under scrutiny, and it might actually be nominated for deletion by one of my talk page stalkers.

Best of luck. May your bouncers be burly and your DJs divine. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:00, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

The top-level template for a sport is never used on biographies, and absolutely not on every biography there is. Only things actually on that template should transclude it. Please seek consensus for the deviation from usual practice. Thanks. Courcelles 00:56, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

I have remove the addition of {{Golf}} to Dan Doh!! and Kaze no Daichi. While both manga use golf as a thematic element in there stories, they are not listed in the template and it makes little sense to add a template on a non-fictional subject to articles about works of fiction. Just like you wouldn't add {{Basketball}} to Space Jam or a football navbox to Remember the Titans, {{Golf}} shouldn't be added to these two articles. —Farix (t | c) 01:05, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I just added that template to zillions of articles and must have not been paying enough attention. Thanks for the removal. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:27, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Anna, Joy Harjo has rights to use that image from Paula. Is that not o.k? We really want to have a different photo for her on Wikipedia. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by TH77777 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello there. I'm afraid it's already been deleted. I found the image on the net as being copyrighted and owned by Paul Abdoo, so please upload it again and ask him (her?) to send in a letter giving permission. This is what you should use; it is self-explanatory: User:Anna Frodesiak/OTRS.

Best wishes, and sorry for the trouble. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:27, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

The article Vanellope von Schweetz has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No evidence of notability - fictional characters from a single movie rarely achieve this

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What??? This is an outrage!!!! Don't make me have to envelop you in a cupcake so you can't move!!!! Hahahaha. Just kidding. Let the chips fall as they may. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:57, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Vanellope von Schweetz is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vanellope von Schweetz until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. McDoobAU93 06:38, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, you've gone way overboard on adding the Golf template to pages. The only pages it should be on are those that the template itself links too. I'm rolling back most of your edits (as User:Courcelles has started to do). Tewapack (talk) 17:03, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Oh dear. I'm so sorry. I was never able to find the guideline on that. I just thought it would increase article traffic.

You're definitely not going to like this. :) Perhaps I can ask the folks at AWB to zap those.

Many of the the following navboxes go well beyond what they list, but seem to be useful to visitors in the articles where they exist.

• Incarceration (transclusion count)
• Stonemasonry (transclusion count)
• Beef (transclusion count)
• Bread (transclusion count)
• Ghosts (transclusion count)
• Pottery (transclusion count)
• Disasters (transclusion count)
• Surfing (transclusion count)
• Rothschild topics (transclusion count)
• Woodworking (transclusion count)
• Social networking (transclusion count)
• City of Haikou (transclusion count)
• Cigarettes (transclusion count)
• Lists of prepared foods (transclusion count)
• Occupational safety and health (transclusion count)
• Water (transclusion count)
• Forestry (transclusion count)
• Paper (transclusion count)

Please let me know about those and I will look after the problem. I'm terribly sorry for the bad judgement call. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:30, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

I'll let others judge the appropriateness of these other templates on pages. I do appreciate your creation of the Golf template but there are lots of other golf navboxs that are appropriate for individual pages especially. Tewapack (talk) 17:46, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

That's a good point. I trust your and Courcelles' judgement, which means that the lacrosse template is in far too many articles. As for the others, they seem sort of reasonable. Maybe the cigarette one is too much. Shall I ask post at AWB tasks for removal of lacrosse? And by the way, is there a guideline on this? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:52, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

I haven't found a guideline per say but it is what I've observed in editing. I quick scan of the search results for "overuse of navbox" in Wikipedia namespace turns up a similar discussion about to {{Lists of Russians}} here and here. Tewapack (talk) 20:51, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Update

The wonderful User:Riley Huntley‎ and I, using the just-discovered, dodgy and dangerous "TinyTask", a don't-take-your-eyes-off-it-for-a-second-while-it's-doing-its-thing-type program, zapped over 900 {{Lacrosse topics}} from all articles except the ones actually in the navbox itself.

If there are any other such removals you think should be done, just ask. I think we have the hang of it now. :)

Again, sorry for the mess, and thanks for rolling back the others before they got buried. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:03, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Maybe the navboxes should have a note to this effect on their talkpages regarding usage. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT ^PRAISE 14:01, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

That's a good idea, but I don't think people ever see such talk pages. Plus, it's case-by-case. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:03, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Then I guess they will continue to be used incorrectly. ;) --THE FOUNDERS INTENT ^PRAISE 15:11, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

I agree. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:17, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hello Anna. I've finished filling-in entries for the List of African dishes article. Here are the current article traffic statistics for it at Stats.grok.se. The article would benefit from expanded information for some of the entries, but at least it's complete at this time. Let's see if the article's traffic increases in the future! Cheers, Northamerica1000^(talk) 12:45, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very, very much. I was meaning to get back to that sometime. Yes, let's hope it climbs to the level of the pastries list. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:38, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Since it's apparent that you're a "foodie", Dream Whip is an article that I've improved which was previously tagged for possibly being non-notable. I've added several sources to the article, and removed the notability tag, but finding additional sources has proven challenging. If you're interested, check out the article and if you can find any sources, add them to it and expand it! Check it out! Northamerica1000^(talk) 14:15, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

I couldn't find much either. I even went to the Kraft website. They have evaporated, powdered, and vaporized all mention of it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:38, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Maybe food journals have more information. From what I've read, it's more difficult to find now in the U.S. compared to its heyday, but it is still manufactured. Northamerica1000^(talk) 12:36, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Breaking news update of the utmost importance!

“

On November 16, 2012, Hostess announced that it was ceasing plant operations and laying off most of its 18,500 employees.

”

• See Hostess Brands#Bankruptcy and liquidation (2012)! Northamerica1000^(talk) 13:57, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

:( --kelapstick^(bainuu) 14:02, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

• At the grocery yesterday they were completely out. The area where Hostess stuff was previously kept was entirely empty. I asked an employee about it, and they advised me regarding the matter of Hostess ceasing operations! Unbelievable! People on Ebay are asking hundreds for a box of cakes! Ridiculous! Northamerica1000^(talk) 14:06, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi folks. Well, it looks like all the cakes are back now. I guess that's a good thing. They have been traditionally used to treat people who felt that their blood was moving through their arteries too quickly. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:13, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

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I've uploaded a media file however it does not appear on my page. Error message "Orphaned non-free media (File:Axial CT image of the spine with calibration phantom.jpg)" Please help me resolve the issue. Furthermore I need to remove the image of the DXA machine off the page and lastly I need to move the image under the History section to the section about "pQCT" — Preceding unsigned comment added by TSP Evol (talk • contribs)

Which page are you referring to? -- Patchy1 12:24, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

As we just discussed at IRC, you don't own that image. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:35, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Anna. Long time without talking. How's things over here? Everything is okay? :P — ṞṈ™ 00:17, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello Razr. All is well this end. How about you? :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:51, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Well, well. Although being involved in two big ANI threads, restricted from making NACs and other stuff, I've been doing nicely. Wikipedia becomes a harsh place sometimes :P have you improved that article I nominated a while ago? I did not recall it's name... [And I apologize again]. — ṞṈ™ 03:26, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

I thought that you deserved something a bit extra for all of the amazing work you've done for the project. I've nominated you for a gift from the Wikimedia Foundation!

Hey Anna. It has been ages since we interacted. How are you?....and I hope you won't mind if I nominate you :) TheSpecialUser ^TSU 03:46, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

		The Editor's Barnstar
		Awarded for your well judged rewrite on the suicide of Amanda Todd article's opening paragraphs Fiddle Faddle (talk) 09:32, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. It's pretty rough, but I hope it's in the right direction. Cheers to you. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:17, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with the File list trick! --Lexein (talk) 14:21, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:24, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Anna, I am writing to inquire about a possible recent edit you did on BiMBA page currently pending submission. Why was essentially everything removed? and the logo as well? That is the logo for our school, and we own all rights to the use of that logo. I do not understand why there would be any problem using that logo. Please give me a clearer explanation as to your actions. Thank you.

Best,

Tim — Preceding unsigned comment added by BiMBAer (talk • contribs) 07:37, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tim. I replied to this post at your talk in err. "Please don't be upset by what I did. I explained talk:Articles for creation/BiMBA here". Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:27, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Anna, Thank you for your response, I understand where you are coming from. However, my question now is, since I am representing our organization, obviously most of the information presented will come from sources already available to me, given by the organization. How am I suppose to create a wiki page providing these exact information without it somehow infringing with your regulations? Also, is there an easier way to talk and discuss? i'd hate to spam your wall with my angry (or maybe just "passionate") messages. :)

Best,

Tim — Preceding unsigned comment added by BiMBAer (talk • contribs) 07:58, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

No worries at all. In a nutshell: Rewrite the text in your own words, from the sources. If and when it becomes an article, write to me and I will upload the logo for you with the right license, and add it to the article. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:06, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and you can get online help from me or others here (click connect): #wikipedia-en-help ^connect

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:08, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Here's a new one I just created: List of twice-baked foods. Feel free to expand it if you have the time! Northamerica1000^(talk) 10:03, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

I'll take a look. Interesting topic. Very strange. What's next List of twice-baked people? :) I'd be happy to expand that because I can get the Grateful Dead fan club list. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:30, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

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Anna hello can U help me? i don't understand why article Leo Jee Speedy deletion nomination? what i must to do? thank U so much ... best regards Alex --AlexSpancer (talk) 12:25, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi there. It doesn't seem to be nominated for speedy deletion. It seems fine. So, how about that image? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:29, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank u Anna ... this image gave me Leo's management here is link Leo's Georgian Wikipedia and U can convince about this image reality... best regards Alex--AlexSpancer (talk) 12:44, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. It sounds like Leo's management owns the image. Could you please ask them to email in permission? Here is the form to send them:

Send to: permissions-commons@wikimedia.org I hereby affirm that I, OWNER'S NAME HERE am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Leo_Jee_cropped.jpg I agree to publish that work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0" (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts). I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me. I am aware that the free license only concerns copyright, and I reserve the option to take action against anyone who uses this work in a libelous way, or in violation of personality rights, trademark restrictions, etc. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the work may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project. OWNER'S NAME HERE, owner of the above mentioned image(s) November 24, 2012

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:56, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Ok Anna no problem wait max 5 minute :)) --AlexSpancer (talk) 13:02, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Take your time. Others are watching this page and will help if I'm not around. Good luck, my friend. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:13, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Dear Anna Leos management already sent on e-mail. thank you for your help my friend ... Good Luck --AlexSpancer (talk) 13:16, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

I have tagged File:Leo_Jee_cropped.jpg with {{OTRS pending}} at Commons, once the email comes in the nice people over there should update it as required. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 13:21, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello kelapstick and thank u so much for collaboration --AlexSpancer (talk) 13:25, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

So often it is lost on others, though ;)

Loved your double message :)

It would be a shame if he or she went. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 23:06, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

It would be better if the editor in question worked with the community with regard to edits around such sensitive areas as paedophilia, not just make a wholesale change to an article without discussion and then a "retirement" because it didn't go their way. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:22, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Actually the duplicate was an accident. I removed one. Quite a coincidence. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:23, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Anna, I got a notice that you left a message for me on your talk pages, but when I clicked on the link it only gave me one message labeled Irony, and none of the content referred to me? By the way, i've also rewritten the intro for the BiMBA link, there should in no way be any problems, since I am certain the information are all cited to their proper sources, and none of the stuff I wrote was directly copied from other sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyawang (talk • contribs) 00:58, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Anna

My name is Tony from Ore Community Land Trust. We are one of the groups involved in the campaign to protect Speckled Wood.

I see that you are updating the species list for Speckled Wood. I also have a species list from our own survey that I was going to update the page with, but I'll wait until you are finished...perhaps you could let me know?

Regards

Tony Ore Community Land Trust

Ore CLT (talk) 13:22, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tony. Nice to meet you. I'm done with the list. It's all yours to modify as you see fit. Please try to include a reference if you have one.

As you know about the place, please see the talk page where I have asked about which infobox is appropriate.

Best wishes, and thanks for the contributions. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:32, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Also, if you don't already know User talk:FOSWMT, consider posting at his talk to ask when he'll be done editing the flora/fauna section. That would avoid any edit conflict. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:34, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

FOSWMT asked for help at the Teahouse about this--I gave him some advice there and on his user talk page. I suggested he follow up with you, since you have been helping him so very well. DGG ( talk ) 00:31, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

I thought I felt my ears burning. While I was editing, the curtains were on fire, so I figured it was only that. Kidding. Thanks for the kind words. I'll do my best to help them produce a good outcome while fulfilling my ulterior motive: recruiting two new editors, and getting them hopelessly addicted to Wikipedia. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:48, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Anna,

• Can we have a Commons link below?

Thanks for your message. Forgive my ignorance, please, but I'm not sure what you mean... Hope I'm not missing something obvious. (I'm still a bit new to Wikipedia!) CsDix (talk) 22:25, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Navboxes can have a "below" option to add items on the bottom bar. For example:

Click edit and you will see |below = {{icon|category}} '''[[:Category:Paper|Category]]'''    [[File:Commons-logo.svg|16x16px|link = |alt = ]] '''[[commons:Category:Paper|Commons]]'''

This new navbox you designed doesn't seem to allow that "below" option for commons images. Can you help? Thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:37, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Ohh, I see what you mean now. Good point. I'll look into it (read: learn how to do it). Thanks for the suggestion. CsDix (talk) 22:41, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks. I would like to add commons cat to all the China topics templates. That's why I'm asking. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:52, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

I've just tried adding a "commons:Category:[country/territory]" link to the "below" line. Hopefully that's what you have in mind..? (Haven't tried testing it yet.) CsDix (talk) 23:00, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Would you be so kind as to add the Commons category to the navbox below. Then I will do the rest. As it is now, I can't quite see how to add anything below, or how the category is added. Cheers.