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The Surface Book should come before Surface Hub as the device was released earlier. Thoughts?

Daylen (talk) 19:12, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Surface Hub was announced earlier, but I agree that the Surface Book should come before as it's a more significant device in the family. Indrek (talk) 12:27, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

¿Wouldn't it be better to migrate this template to one akin to Microsoft Lumia's? Let me create an example model here.

¿Is this option doable? If there is anything that need be reformed please tell me, this is just the first draft of a concept.

Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 08:59, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Another way we could possibly go is:

This one is more simplified and focuses more on branding rather than generations.

Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 09:04, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A quick note, the "other" section is organised alphabetically as opposed to based on either release or announcement.

Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 09:08, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Draft #3 is organised more like the Microsoft Lumia template which is based on operating systems with which the device was released (even though they can upgrade through updates), and then alphabetically as opposed to chromatically:

¿Better or worse?

Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 09:14, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of these three templates makes sense. Generations of Surface models are opaque and no one can say what generation this or that Surface model is for sure. Think of Surface Book. For me, it's not from the fourth generation, it is in first generation of its own. Segregation by Pro and non-Pro is also very loose, since Hub and Book does not fall into any of these categories, and place them in "Other" is not a perfect solution. Lastly, OS criteria is a most weak of all proposed, since most of Surface models work with Windows 8 or 10. TranslucentCloud (talk) 11:51, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@TranslucentCloud: Well you may or may not have read this is the same way the template for Microsoft Lumia looks like with the original operating systems being the dividing category, just because a device is upgradable to another operating system doesn't mean that it doesn't belong to that generation as devices released with Windows 10 pre-installed have separate Windows 10-exclusive features like Windows Hello, also to say that it's the weakest one is a lousy argument based on that especially since in the Microsoft Surface article specifically at Microsoft Surface#Model comparison the pre-loaded operating system is listed as a means of dividing them.

Furthermore in the present template there doesn't seem to be any organisation other than alphabetic for Surface then Surface Pro and gets random with the Hub and Book.

As you can see here