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Section sizes Section size for War in Afghanistan (2001–2021) (51 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 13,961 13,961 Names 4,530 4,530 Prelude 261 13,865 Rise of the Taliban 4,307 4,307 Al-Qaeda 1,491 1,491 September 11 attacks 3,639 3,639 US ultimatum to the Taliban 4,167 4,167 History 72 180,987 Tactical overview 5,327 5,327 2001–2002: Invasion and early operations 11,242 11,242 2003–2005: Taliban resurgence 165 15,086 Coalition mistakes, Taliban start to re-organize 14,921 14,921 2006–2007: Escalating war 12,513 12,513 2008-2009: NATO build-up, Pakistan skirmishes, and Karzai re-election 18,255 18,255 2010–2011: Strategic agreements and death of Bin Laden 18,461 18,461 2012-2013: U.S. troop incidents, Obama-Karzai meetings 13,486 13,486 2014–2015: Withdrawal and increase of insurgency 26,802 26,802 2016-2017: Collapse of peace talks, emergence of Islamic State 18,525 18,525 2018–2019: Peace overtures 17,567 17,567 2020: US-Taliban deal, beginning of US withdrawaal 10,359 10,359 2021: End of US withdrawal, last Taliban offensive 13,292 13,292 Impact 70 21,361 Casualties 8,257 8,257 Refugees 2,363 2,363 War crimes 8,247 8,247 Drug trade 2,424 2,424 NATO's inability to stabilize Afghanistan 847 13,489 Environment and drug trade 1,438 1,438 Early mistakes and the US's other war 1,816 1,816 Domestic corruption and politics 2,202 2,202 Influence of non-NATO actors 5,929 5,929 American public misleading 1,257 1,257 Foreign support for the Taliban 36 3,538 Pakistan 2,020 2,020 Russia and Iran 1,482 1,482 Reactions 71 7,807 Domestic reactions 3,946 3,946 International public opinion 2,431 2,431 Protests, demonstrations and rallies 1,359 1,359 Aftermath 73 10,529 Formation of the Taliban government and international recognition 636 636 Republican insurgency 4,475 4,475 Islamic State activity 781 781 Abandonment of Afghan allies 1,674 1,674 Humanitarian crisis 2,890 2,890 See also 1,093 1,093 Notes 26 26 References 44 44 Sources 3,543 3,543 Further reading 423 423 External links 4,312 4,312 Total 279,508 279,508

The picture of the Chinook helicopter mistakenly refers to "USAF pilots." The US Air Force does not have pilots for the Chinook. They're "US Army pilots," as the citation notes.

First paragraph, last sentence "andwas" appears as one word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.60.35.95 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 19 June 2013

Under Casualties and Losses on right hand side "but reports suggest a higher number compared to coalition forces" may read better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.91.1 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 20 March 2014

"2001: Overthrow of the Taliban" - boming should be bombing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.183.22.30 (talk • contribs) 22:28, 9 May 2014

Under "2016-2017: Collapse of peace talks, emergence of Islamic State" the second paragraph, last sentence, there is a typo "ajd" which probably should read "and." MrToasterWaffles (talk) 00:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why the aftermath article needs to be merged into this one while this one is considered too long as is? Seaparrot876 (talk) 16:05, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

the results are brief enough, there doesnt need to be a see aftermath section Ali36800p (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

all b52 bombers, who bombed afghanistan, started from the isle diego garcia, that isle is owned by british empire. the b52 boeing bombers have rolls royce engines, a british corporation.

on that time tony blair and royal family controlled british empire.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=blair%20bush%20nato&qs=n&form=QBIR&sp=-1&lq=0&pq=blair%20bush%20nato&sc=1-15&cvid=C737845F16D14BA1880DB0A59A18BCB1&ghsh=0&ghacc=0&first=1

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=rolls%20royce%20britain%20b52&qs=n&form=QBIR&sp=-1&lq=0&pq=rolls%20royce%20britain%20b52&sc=10-23&cvid=B3790C45D9FA493EB342268BF3E7D42F&ghsh=0&ghacc=0&first=1

bae british aerospace built the panavia tornado multi role bomber.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panavia_Tornado

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Aerospace 2001:9E8:D2F9:4100:852B:AE58:EBE4:608D (talk) 18:29, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I propose to indicate the upper limit for Taliban losses: 72,000 killed ^{[1] [2]} Hikka1999 (talk) 17:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]