Talk:Ultimate Ears
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"Used by most of the world's top touring musicians"
Can we get a reference for this? As it is, it just sounds like promotional material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.231.10.55 (talk) 01:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Feedback (no pun intended)
I'd like some feedback on the edit's I've made, are they good or bad, is the article better or worse now, more or less advertising sounding? --Opspin (talk) 01:23, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Their earphones kick ass. Rock on.
Expanding the article a bit
There are gonna be a TON OF BUGS in this article, so it's up to you guys to debug this article to make it the way you see fit. Thanks. — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 02:39, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'll try to a more professional tone to it, and clean up any bugs. PiccoloNamek 02:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Thanx. — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 10:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Recent promotional tone
Recent edits by new users have injected a non-neutral promotional tone, and taken away cited parts of the history that do not reflect well on the company. Such edits are a violation of WP:NPOV, a non-negotiable policy at Wikipedia. The article must be allowed to carry full information including the activities of its founder Jerry Harvey, its relationship with Westone, its sales story, etc. Binksternet (talk) 23:16, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Photo of the founder
I have repeatedly restored the photo of Jerry Harvey, founder of Ultimate Ears. I cannot understand why anyone would consider an image of the founder as not appropriate for a company article. Binksternet (talk) 17:42, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia states that just because something is "...merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia." Jerry Harvey's photo is not a necessary part of Ultimate Ears wikipedia page. It is a company and not a person.
- Binksternet: WP:TALK ask that a person should stick to the facts and be objective. I have presented the facts that Logitech & Apple Inc. do not have photos of their founders. My edits were in no way inconsiderate to the legacy, disparaging or subjective of Ultimate Ears or Jerry Harvey.
- You have not made a proposal for change and worse have instead reverted the page to your edit and have maintained no willingness to collaborate openly.
- If Amazon (which includes a photo of its current CEO/Founder) and Sony are your rebuttals to my Logitech & Apple Inc. then I suggest we refer to the fact that 9 out of the top 10 of the Fortune 500 has NO photo of the founder; Ford Moto Company is the one with a photo, of course!!! [1] AMuteRealist (talk) 23:06, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
- I have "no willingness to collaborate openly"? That's news to me, the guy who started this discussion. I am always willing to talk about text in an article.
- As for what's necessary at the article in terms of photos, nothing is. There is no requirement to have images of IEMs, of corporate headquarters, of company officers, of users with the product, of anything. There is not even a requirement to have the article itself.
- However, we have a good image of the founder which became freely available on July 8, 2011, so I thought it was a good addition here. Company founder images are seen not just at Sony, Ford Motor Company and Amazon.com but also at Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, United Artists, Steinway & Sons, Hermès, Sears, Microsoft and Google. Typical reasons not to have a company founder image include no freely licensed public domain ones, and editor consensus against having one. On this article, no consensus has been established. Note that editors such as yourself with a conflict of interest, a stake in the company, are not allowed to remove images on their own unless they are a gross violation of one of Wikipedia's five pillars. Harvey's image is not that. Binksternet (talk) 23:41, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
You are the consensus for posting a photo for which standard is determined only by yourself? [WP:COI]] "Do not use a voluntarily disclosed conflict of interest as a weapon against the editor." AMuteRealist (talk) 23:58, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
- I am simply pointing out that I have more freedom in editing the article than any editor who is intimately connected to Ultimate Ears or Logitech. Such editors are only allowed to make non-controversial changes to the article. I dispute the removal of the photo of Jerry Harvey, therefore its removal is defined as controversial. Binksternet (talk) 23:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
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Jerry Harvey merge proposal
A new article on Jerry Harvey has been created that largely duplicates the information already available at this article. Harvey does not appear notable outside of his association with UE, so I am proposing that the new article be redirected to this article. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:10, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Two articles. Harvey meets WP:GNG by the extensive coverage he received in Head-Fi, ProSoundWeb and Inc. magazine. Personal information about Harvey would be lost in a merge, such as his persondata and especially Harvey's post-Ultimate Ears career as founder of JH Audio. Binksternet (talk) 21:51, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Note that the biography was deleted on January 17, 2013, without an AfD. I asked for userfication and the request was honored. The workpage is in my userspace: User:Binksternet/Harvey. The article's history was retained, so you can see who worked on it. I was intending to tweak the bio in the near future and bring it back into mainspace. Binksternet (talk) 21:57, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Comment The Head-Fi reference is a forum -- not exactly a reliable source. The Inc. piece is based entirely on his time at UE, and the [ProSoundWeb bit is along the lines of "where are they now?" I'd almost give that last one a pass as a reliable source, but it really doesn't point to any notability of Harvey past his UE association. Certainly his new company is not off the ground enough to point to new notability. The whole point of a merge would be to carry over any significant information from this article to the merge target. If any of the personal information about Harvey is verifiable, it can be added to the UE article. Harvey's post-UE career can be added as a footnote to the UE article. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:00, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- The Head-Fi source is an administrator news post, not part of threaded forum discussion. I disagree about JH Audio, with reviews such as this one in CNET the company is doing pretty well, perhaps up for its own article in the future, if they win a tech award or something similar. I also disagree about relegating information about JH Audio to the Ultimate Ears article; the companies more competitors than colleagues. Binksternet (talk) 23:02, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Comment: Hey - not sure how much my opinion matters here (I posted the last stub), but in this case I agree with Binksternet; incorporating that draft will help diversify the two pages a lot more, and JH Audio seems significant based on the refs (or at least could deserve a section on the Harvey page). I have the impression that a huge section on Harvey on the UE page would seem unbalanced since there are multiple key people, and that Harvey is notable more as an inventor and music industry personality than a businessman. My two cents. AudioJunker (talk) 00:01, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
- Comment The Head-Fi reference is a forum -- not exactly a reliable source. The Inc. piece is based entirely on his time at UE, and the [ProSoundWeb bit is along the lines of "where are they now?" I'd almost give that last one a pass as a reliable source, but it really doesn't point to any notability of Harvey past his UE association. Certainly his new company is not off the ground enough to point to new notability. The whole point of a merge would be to carry over any significant information from this article to the merge target. If any of the personal information about Harvey is verifiable, it can be added to the UE article. Harvey's post-UE career can be added as a footnote to the UE article. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:00, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Note that the biography was deleted on January 17, 2013, without an AfD. I asked for userfication and the request was honored. The workpage is in my userspace: User:Binksternet/Harvey. The article's history was retained, so you can see who worked on it. I was intending to tweak the bio in the near future and bring it back into mainspace. Binksternet (talk) 21:57, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Closed With the expansion of the Jerry Harvey (inventor) article, and no support here for a merge, I'll close this discussion. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:49, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Out of date product list
Many of the products in the "Universal Fit Earphones" section have been discontinued (true as of March 2014).
Are there any references as to when/why this happened?
108.27.85.2 (talk) 11:51, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- Most likely due to a merge with Logitech. I have seen discussion about it on head-fi.org. 115.84.119.57 (talk) 14:43, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
COI editing
A user named UltimaterEars15 has written in one of his/her edit summaries: "Ultimate Ears is now one of the world's leading manufacturers of bluetooth speakers so we would like to update the page to reflect this." That shows the user has a fundamental misunderstanding about how Wikipedia works, what is WP:COI and he thinks Wikipedia is a platform for the companies' staff to communicate with the public, or worse, to advertise. 115.84.119.57 (talk) 14:41, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
List of products
Would a table be better ? And faster to read too. --213.167.233.249 (talk) 18:22, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Tagged as "Advertising"
I've gone and tagged the article as it strongly seems to be some kind of ad, or at the very least, some parts of it do. Vulpicula (talk) 12:22, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
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