Talk:Toronto-gauge railways
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The main article contains the discussion for creating this article via split. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 21:19, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Toronto-gauge railways
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Toronto-gauge railways's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "50YPT":
- From Spadina streetcar line (1923–48): John F. Bromley and Jack May (1973). 50 Years of Progressive Transit. Electric Railroaders' Association. pp. 37, 74, 107, 158, and map section.
- From Davisville Yard:
John F. Bromley and Jack May (1973). 50 Years of Progressive Transit. Electric Railroaders' Association. pp. 83. ISBN 9781550024487. Retrieved 2016-08-31.
Chapter 8 - Postwar Change
- From Hillcrest Complex:
John F. Bromley and Jack May (1973). 50 Years of Progressive Transit. Electric Railroaders' Association. pp. 28. ISBN 9781550024487. Retrieved 2016-08-31.
Chapter 4 - The Renaissance: Cars and Shops
- From Toronto and York Radial Railway: John F. Bromley and Jack May (1973). 50 Years of Progressive Transit. Electric Railroaders' Association. pp. 39. ISBN 9781550024487. Retrieved 2016-08-31.
- From Peter Witt (Toronto streetcar): Bromley, John F.; May, Jack (1973). 50 Years of Progressive Transit. Electric Railroaders' Association. pp. 39: Streetcars in radial service, 159: Peter Witt Motors & Center Door Trailers. ISBN 9781550024487.
- From Yonge streetcar line:
John F. Bromley and Jack May (1973). 50 Years of Progressive Transit. Electric Railroaders' Association. pp. 76, 79, 81, 83. ISBN 9781550024487. Retrieved 2016-08-31.
Chapter 8 - Postwar Change
- From Toronto and Mimico Electric Railway and Light Company: John F. Bromley and Jack May (1973). 50 Years of Progressive Transit. Electric Railroaders' Association. pp. 66. ISBN 9781550024487. Retrieved 2016-08-31.
- From 510 Spadina: John F. Bromley and Jack May (1973). 50 Years of Progressive Transit. Electric Railroaders' Association. pp. 37, 74, 107, and map section.
- From Metropolitan Street Railway (Toronto): John F. Bromley and Jack May (1973). 50 Years of Progressive Transit. Electric Railroaders' Association. pp. 39:Streetcars in radial service. ISBN 9781550024487. Retrieved 2016-08-31.
- From Greenwood Yard:
John F. Bromley and Jack May (1973). 50 Years of Progressive Transit. Electric Railroaders' Association. pp. 107. ISBN 9781550024487. Retrieved 2016-08-31.
Chapter 11 - The Crosstown Subway
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:12, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Not so useful revisions.
@TheTrolleyPole: A certain User:EelamStyleZ made a slue of not so useful opinionated revisions thus undoing your hard work. Perhaps they should be eliminated by going back to my last revision. Peter Horn User talk 02:52, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Could you explain what you mean by not so useful revisions? Also, reverting edits does not lead to elimination of any sort. EelamStyleZ (talk) 14:46, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- @EelamStyleZ, Peter Horn, Blaixx, Johnny Au, and Joeyconnick: Please comment. I haven't yet gone into every one of the many changes User:EelamStyleZ made, but some should be reverted. The first sentence ("Toronto-gauge railways refer to trackage of light rail and rapid transit lines built to Toronto gauge") is incorrect it should say "streetcar" not "light rail". I prefer the original order of sections with "Variations" being a sub-section of "Development" as they are closely related. "Radial railways" should be last as streetcars and subways are more prominent. I am glad you restored all the sub-sections for "Radial railways" as without them, the section looks too unstructured. Combining streetcars and subways into one section "Current usage" creates an error as the Hamilton LRT is not "current usage", but I had included it under "Subways" as LRT lines are often considered as rapid transit. I feel that listing the 3 heavy rail lines is unnecessary. I wish you hadn't done so much shuffling of text, as it makes the series of mods difficult to follow. I can understand why Peter Horn suggests reverting the mods. Perhaps, the simplest solution is to revert the mods and allow User:EelamStyleZ to make suggestions for change on the talk page. Could user:Joeyconnick provide comment? TheTrolleyPole (talk) 20:58, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Reverted all changes back to previous revision. It was only for clean up purposes (i.e. reduce the number of bullet points). Listing the specific rapid transit lines seems more relevant than listing all the streetcar lines (previous revision) which can be cut down to the point that the entire streetcar system operates on Toronto gauge. I reworded streetcars and subways as light rail and rapid transit respectively as the former terms are pretty Canada/North America specific. The article was otherwise well written, so I didn't make any content changes. EelamStyleZ (talk) 01:29, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. The article looks OK now. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 01:56, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- Reverted all changes back to previous revision. It was only for clean up purposes (i.e. reduce the number of bullet points). Listing the specific rapid transit lines seems more relevant than listing all the streetcar lines (previous revision) which can be cut down to the point that the entire streetcar system operates on Toronto gauge. I reworded streetcars and subways as light rail and rapid transit respectively as the former terms are pretty Canada/North America specific. The article was otherwise well written, so I didn't make any content changes. EelamStyleZ (talk) 01:29, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- @EelamStyleZ, Peter Horn, Blaixx, Johnny Au, and Joeyconnick: Please comment. I haven't yet gone into every one of the many changes User:EelamStyleZ made, but some should be reverted. The first sentence ("Toronto-gauge railways refer to trackage of light rail and rapid transit lines built to Toronto gauge") is incorrect it should say "streetcar" not "light rail". I prefer the original order of sections with "Variations" being a sub-section of "Development" as they are closely related. "Radial railways" should be last as streetcars and subways are more prominent. I am glad you restored all the sub-sections for "Radial railways" as without them, the section looks too unstructured. Combining streetcars and subways into one section "Current usage" creates an error as the Hamilton LRT is not "current usage", but I had included it under "Subways" as LRT lines are often considered as rapid transit. I feel that listing the 3 heavy rail lines is unnecessary. I wish you hadn't done so much shuffling of text, as it makes the series of mods difficult to follow. I can understand why Peter Horn suggests reverting the mods. Perhaps, the simplest solution is to revert the mods and allow User:EelamStyleZ to make suggestions for change on the talk page. Could user:Joeyconnick provide comment? TheTrolleyPole (talk) 20:58, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Things that lead nowhere
: 21 & : 7 in Toronto-gauge railways#Variations in Toronto gauge lead absolutely nowhere. Peter Horn User talk 00:16, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- That is {{rp|21}} & {{rp|7}} Peter Horn User talk 01:56, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Still no explanation. Peter Horn User talk 19:29, 13 July 2020 (UTC)